Iterative Refinement

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. nkhoi

    nkhoi


    quiz: Have you ever seen this question & answer before? How many times?:)
     
    #3161     May 6, 2008
  2. OK, then the bar in question had increasing Volume and not 'Peak' Volume.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3162     May 6, 2008
  3. I operate under this definition of BO:

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1387891&highlight=kaput#post1387891

    So without using YM, I see bar 26 as a BO, which tells me the channel is incorrect and fanning out is the next step. Bars 27 BO again. the market is moving laterally towards new pt3 which is only confirmed by increasing volume on bar 29.
     
    #3163     May 6, 2008
  4. Jander

    Jander

    :confused:
     
    #3164     May 6, 2008
  5. OK. I see now. I am guessing his (and your) charts label time differently than my own. Thanks for the clarification.

    However, once again, the YM does provide the answer.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3165     May 6, 2008
  6. Bar 26 is an FBO. It fails to remain outside of its formation and the RTL - returning to both. However, fanning does follow such an event.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3166     May 6, 2008
  7. Jander

    Jander

    Does it not provide 3 answers w/ varying outcomes? It could :

    1] Signal FTT .. Bar 10 or 12, w/ Bar 10 being a more likely candidate due to volume

    2] Be a forming dip (Bars 10-12)

    3] Show lateral movement towards pt3 of a shallower down channel

    Making a decision prior to 10:00 seems to involve guesswork to me...
     
    #3167     May 6, 2008
  8. Beginning with 11:30 ES finds itself in the formation (first FBP, then Lateral).

    During this time YM provided 4 signals (see attached):

    11:32 - new pt3 up channel (blue)
    11:34 - FTT in the new pt3 up channel (blue)
    11:36 - new pt3 down channel (green)
    11:44 - FTT in the new pt3 down channel (green)

    Are we suppose to act on all those 4 signals?
     
    #3168     May 6, 2008
  9. The YM provides, but a single answer. We have a binary system here - continuation or change. The YM signals one or the other. It cannot signal both. When does the IBGS ever provide a signal for continuation?

    Then I suggest you review the differences between continuation and change. The market does not ever provide ambiguous signals. The trader, however, often misses the signals provided or misunderstands clarity, seeing instead - ambiguity.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3169     May 6, 2008
  10. When exactly are you permitted to make a decision with respect to the ES (at your current resolution level)? Answer this question, and you'll answer your own previously posted one.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3170     May 6, 2008