WG, Thanks for the response. My understanding (weak as it is ) is that for a "ES 5 min. traverse" to materialize we need two cycles of increasing volume (i.e. like your 10:20 Pt2). The B2B @ 11:20 to :40 on your chart only had one increasing volume cycle. I understood this to be a "faster fractal" traverse, basically a "sub traverse". Therefore, according to my twisted logic, the Pt2 for the Non Dom Up traverse would be at 12:10. This makes a Pt3 and a SOC a geometric impossibility with the resulting Price action. Consequently, it appears I am operating under a incorrect understanding of what a "ES 5 min. traverse is and what a "faster fractal" traverse is. Hope this makes some sense.