Italy: 96% of Coronavirus Fatalities Had Other Chronic Illnesses

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, May 27, 2020.

  1. jem

    jem

    I am going to wait and see before I give out kudos... We need more time.

    There have been a few professors and some articles I have seen where the thesis is this virus burns out on its own and follows similar curves regardless of the intensity of the the shutdown... which only delay things a bit. I will be surprised by that... but it may follow a slow burnout. Once a place gets super spreaders under control and the most vulnerable are protected (or have died) ... what is Covid like then?

    I think I need about of a two months worth of no shutdown data... before I we know if any of this was necessary after the first 2 to 3 weeks.

    For instance where is Sweden going to be a month from now vs say CA or New York for Florida?



     
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    #51     May 27, 2020
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I don't have to have anything to refute your "study".

    I have the Italian data and saying that these people should have lived another 10 years at least if it wasn't for Covid is nearly the dumbest thing you have posted. The only thing more idiotic was your claim that not practicing social distancing was the same as holding a gun to the head of your family.
     
    #52     May 28, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The study included more data sets than just Italy.
     
    #53     May 28, 2020
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Good for the study. I honestly don't care. You're essentially saying "who ya gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?"

    I have the Italian data. It is clear. You're trying to tell me things are vastly different everywhere else in the world, yet Italy was one of the sole reasons for the lockdown panic because of the data coming out of it was so scary. Now we find it was scary - if you were over 80 and very ill. And you are telling me your study doesn't include Italy? Or it includes Italy and those people (the over 80s) should have had at least another 10 years left?

    That's all I need to hear to get a good laugh.
     
    #54     May 28, 2020
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao



    Look at the percentages in all the nursing homes. I wonder - did all of those people have at least another 10 years left to live, and Covid came and took all that away?

    Uh huh.
     
    #55     May 28, 2020
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You can easily download the data from the other nations in the study. It is all included. You are simply narrowly only considering data from one country which is disingenuous.
     
    #56     May 28, 2020
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Spike? Just wanted to re-post this offer in case you missed it. You went silent all of a sudden.
     
    #57     May 28, 2020
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So you're saying the data in Italy is an anomaly? Or isn't valid? Should the study you quoted apply to Italy or not?
     
    #58     May 28, 2020
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Italy is part of the entire data set. You should review the entire set in regards to the study if you disagree with it; not pick & choose the very few numbers that support your claims.

    What you are doing is similar to selecting one 85 year old man with several comorbidities inlduing cancer - claiming that he was only live a couple months due to his other conditions -- and due to this the entire study showing 10 excess 10 years of life is incorrect.
     
    #59     May 28, 2020
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    What is it I am doing? I don't understand your second paragraph at all.

    I read the article.
     
    #60     May 28, 2020