It is now time to sell sell sell your TLT - Bonds are going to crash

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by retaildaytrader, Jul 29, 2010.

  1. i'm long the TBT through ratio backspreads... i thought it was the wisest choice.. gives me the best risk to reward ratio... if it doesn't go up that much.. no big deal
     
    #131     Jul 19, 2012
  2. Nice strategy. I don't think it's going to soar (TBT), but I think the bottom is in. Put credit spreads are another way to go.
     
    #132     Jul 19, 2012
  3. thats a good idea my backspreads are with leaps.. theres no adversity to owning the TBT right? i mean it doesn't lose value like ETF's based on futures right?
     
    #133     Jul 19, 2012
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    Great points;
    great risk reward points.

    a]TLT is still making an acceptable uptrend;
    except for the following bearish data.

    b]Weekly Buy volume is decreasing- thats bearish.
    Ben B fed head ,maybe be the best fed head, i like him a lot;
    but no man, no fed, no gov is bigger than the market[Dow theory]

    c]5th wave up ,that may be bullish or bearish[weekly long term trend.];
    but up trends are not predictions.

    d] Taking the last 1/8 [or last .25]out of a trade;
    that may not be bearish, but it can get exspensive.LOL
    :D
    E,]People selling on the way up[weekly charts];
    its your call.

    F/failure]Actually trying to take the last quarter out of a long trend;
    can be profitable, even with a crash/huge sell slippage. It still can work, if one got in early& likes/plans on huge drawdowns.

    Not a prediction; simply wisdom.LIke the trader said who shorted C, fundamentals win in the end
    :cool:
     
    #134     Jul 19, 2012
  5. No, the big, BIG risk in TBT is some sort of crisis that results in 1000 point drop in the Dow.
    TBT will most definitely crash in that case.
    The big question is: despite the above scenario, can the 10 yr TBond go below 1% ?
    I mean in Europe, some rates are negative !!!
     
    #135     Jul 20, 2012
  6. i've got a ratio backspread on the TBT for that exact reason.. if it stays down or goes lower.. i don't get screwed!
     
    #136     Jul 20, 2012
  7. 1.46% on the Ten year....wow.
    This has been a tough bottom to call...for the rates.
    It's like drawing a line in the sand, and then it gets crossed.
     
    #137     Jul 20, 2012
  8. .. my question is there any depreciation cost for holding the tbt for a really long time
     
    #138     Jul 20, 2012
  9. #139     Jul 24, 2012
  10. why not short zroz vs. tbt?
     
    #140     Jul 24, 2012