Israelis murder seven Palestinians who were picnicking on beach

The blood on our hands

By Bradley Burston


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=725483 It was easy for us, much, much too easy, to have gone through this entire weekend, and still not see the blood on our hands.

One reason is that we don't watch Al Jazeera. Another is that we don't really see ourselves.

We immediately found no end of ways to disengage from the tragedy of a family erased for the crime of picnicking on a beach.

The World Cup was one method. Another was reflex.

The ineffable anguish in the image of a girl running on a beach where her family lay in pieces on the sand, was shown again and again and again on Al Jazeera, but it passed swiftly from Israeli television screens and from the Israeli consciousness, replaced, in many cases, with indignation over the world's propensity to pre-judge and condemn us.

It wasn't us, we told ourselves. And if it was us, we were more than justified.

"I categorically reject all the attempts to impugn the morality of the Israel Defense Forces," said Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, opening the cabinet session on Sunday.

"The Israel Defense Forces is the most moral army in the world. It has never conducted a policy of harming civilians, and is not doing so today."

Were we, in fact, at fault?

The army's front commander for Gaza, Major General Yoav Galant, said Sunday that "the picture is unclear. The artillery fire has been well-analyzed, and the question marks are multiplying as to whether the artillery fire was the cause of the incident."

Say he's right. Say it wasn't our fault. Say we dismiss as irrelevant the fact that five IDF shells landed nearby at the same time, and that the trajectory of the sixth is unaccounted-for.

Pretend, for argument's sake, that the army's statements on the incident were not meant to confabulate, that is, to unconsciously replace fact with fantasy in someone's memory.

Make believe that it was only coincidence that when Army Radio said the probe was to determine who was responsible for the killing of the Ghalia family, it suggested that the choices were "an Israeli artillery shell, or a Palestinian Qassam rocket that landed in the area by mistake."

And while you're at it ...

Say the blood that is on our hands is not that of Ali Ghalia, the father of the family, his wife Ra'isa, four of his daughters, one aged 2, and his eight-month-old son

Say the blood is not that of Mohammed Dura, the 12-year-old boy killed early in the Intifada in a crossfire between Israelis and Palestinians.

For every Mohammed Dura, there have been hundreds and hundreds of Palestinians killed by the IDF in error, in conjunction with the killing of terrorists, or because overwhelming force and remote technology was applied in order to minimize the risk to Israeli troops.

There was no news crew to film them, so the world cares nothing for them. And neither do we. Their tragedies are no less unbearable, surely no less unbearable than the hundreds of our own the world cares nothing for.

We can live with it, as we live with the idea of sending thousands and thousands of artillery shells into one of the most crowded districts on the planet, in order to try to hit three-man mobile crews firing a rocket not much bigger than a broom - the equivalent of going after a fly with a pile-driver.

We live with it because we Can't Just Do Nothing, as if thousands of shells, many of them directed at open spaces calculated precisely to hit nothing, are the only possible alternative.

We can live with it, fundamentally, because we don't know what else to do, and because the only thing left for us to believe, is that it's wrong to negotiate.

"The entire protest was ugly from the standpoint of morality," said senior Likud lawmaker Yuval Steinitz, referring to a small demonstration of leftists near the house of IDF Chief of Staff Dan Halutz Saturday morning - a rally that included Olmert's daughter Dana.

The demonstration was over the killing of the Ghalia family in Gaza, and in favor of resuming peace talks, even with a government with whom we share only mutual abhorrence.

"Instead of demonstrating against the side that fires Qassams with malice aforethought against civilians, Israeli civilians, the civilians of Sderot," Steinitz added, "they protest against the side that, as a last resort, must defend its citizens, is obligated to defend its citizens, and responds with fire."

In the long run, if we are to be able to live with it, it will be because in fighting Qassams, we have developed smarter and smarter ways kill fewer and fewer Palestinian civilians. On Sunday, soon after a 60-year-old Sderot man was critically wounded when a Qassam slammed into a school, the IAF attacked a Hamas rocket crew as they prepared to fire another, killing two of them and wounding the third. There were no civilian casualties.

 

And tell them what? Tell them that despite the daily killing, the daily shelling, the daily theft, the daily destruction, the daily hate and the daily attempt to destroy you, you need to refrain??
Yep, exactly, tell them that they need to refrain from terrorism, intifadas, wars, rocket attacks etc if they want to avoid Israeli retaliations.

You are the criminal who is turning their lives into hell, you are the killer who kills their children
Hitler was responsible for the death of german children during WWII, not american, british or russian soldier who pulled the trigger. You palestinians are responsible for the deaths of your children.


You are coming to me asking me to calm my people
I am not coming to you and I am not asking you to calm your people, I am trying to explain that as long as they keep sending rockets into Israel from Gaza they have no one else to blame but themselves for inevitable retaliations and inevitable although regrettable deaths of innocent civilians. Why is it so hard to understand for you and your people?

while you are the one who gloated in support of assassinating a Hamas member even though they declared a cease fire with you?
LOL, too bad Israel did not declare a cease fire on criminals and terrorists, a serial killer who stops killing (and not even for good, just for a while) still belongs in the electric chair.

Buddy, 70% of our population is under the age of 16,
You're breeding like fucking rabbits and you call that genocide?

Every soldier is a legitimate target and that is what the resistance should be.
That is what the resistance should be but that is not what it is, your Qassam and Katyusha rockets don't target Israeli troops, they target Israeli cities. When you approve of palestinian resistance (self-defense?) you approve of terrorism and murder of innocent Israeli civilians.

The resistance should also be about planting back every tree you uproot, rebuilding every home you destroy, cleaning every well you poison and sending our children to schools in spit of you emptying your machine gun magazines in their bodies and imposing weeks long curfews!
Yeah, sounds good to me but your people have never been good at building, working and studying (except in madrasas), they have a great record of destroying, killing and pillaging though.

 

For those who have not yet read it, the above essay on the differences between Western and Islamic culture, is KEY for anyone trying to understand this topic.

Every single portrayal I've ever seen of Muslim Arabs (both terrorists and innocents) in American TV shows and movies- is a complete misrepresentation.

 

From that loser Wally:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51643

That's from a year ago, folks. Poor ol Wally, bozo incarnate. Please send him money so he can get well. While many suffer from derangement, Wally is an unusually critical case that is most likely beyond the reach of modern science. Only you can help find a cure for this monstrous disease that keeps it's victims forever locked in some strange fairyland.

 

These are the latest pictures of the latest massacre committed by the Zionists on tuesday.

10 civilians, including 5 children and two Jihad members, were killed.

 

And here is a picture of the friendly people of the "Religion of Peace" on their reign of terror on Israel.

It will be coming to the U.S. very soon. They have lots of practice in Iraq, Spain, Britain, Bali, Turkey, Jordan,Africa - well, just about every continent.

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War Is Deceit
By Robert Spencer
FrontPageMagazine.com | June 14, 2006
http://www.frontpagemag.org/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22894

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"War is deceit," said the Islamic Prophet Muhammad, and some of his contemporary followers have been putting his words into practice with increasing industry lately:

While international opprobrium focuses again on Israel for a supposedly errant rocket attack last Friday that killed eight Palestinians on a Gaza beach, it has become increasingly apparent that the victims were actually killed by Hamas explosives.

Palestinian Media Watch reports that "Palestinian Authority TV has been repeatedly broadcasting a falsified video clip of the events surrounding the deaths of seven family members on the Gaza beach on Friday. In an attempt to blame Israel's navy for the deaths, PA TV took unrelated video of an Israeli missile boat firing at Gaza earlier in the day and edited them into the scenes, creating the impression [of] Israeli responsibility.... The video of the Israeli navy was unrelated to the deaths, having been filmed earlier in the day and had already released to the media and to the internet by the Israeli army at 4:00 PM, an hour prior to the deaths... t should be noted that not only is the video falsified, but the beach scene clearly backs the Israeli contention that the deaths were not caused by an Israeli shell. Any Israeli shell would have left a giant crater and spread sand over the entire area, as well as on the victims. There is no crater and the beach scene is not disturbed in a way that indicates an Israeli shell could have landed nearby."

All this recalls Muhammad Al-Dura, the twelve-year-old Palestinian boy who became an international symbol of alleged Israeli oppression when footage of his being shot by Israeli soldiers circulated around the world in 2000. However, it has become increasingly clear that the event was not what most of the world thought it was, and may have been staged outright by Palestinian propagandists --who do their work very well.

[continues with other examples]

 

U.S.-trained expert says shell was Israeli

By LAURIE COPANS, Associated Press Writer
Wed Jun 14, 7:21 PM ET



A U.S.-trained military expert disputed on Wednesday an Israeli claim that it had nothing to do with an explosion that killed eight Palestinian beachgoers in the Gaza Strip last Friday, an incident that has turned a critical spotlight on Israel's military practices.

Israel released results of its own inquiry, which determined that the blast was not caused by a shell fired from Israeli artillery.

But Marc Garlasco, a military expert from New York-based Human Rights Watch, inspected the damage, the shrapnel and the wounds and came to a different conclusion.

"I'm convinced this was from an Israeli shell," Garlasco said Wednesday in a telephone interview. He said the main question still open is where it came from and when — was it fired by an Israeli artillery piece, as Palestinians charge, or was it buried in the sand, either on purpose by militants, as Israel alleges, or left over from an earlier attack?

Garlasco was the first independent expert to examine the scene, though Israel has doubts about his conclusions and about Human Rights Watch. He was in Gaza doing research for the human rights group when the explosion killed eight people on Friday afternoon, seven of them relatives.

Garlasco is a former intelligence specialist battle damage assessment officer for the Pentagon who has studied conflicts in Bosnia and Iraq. He rankled the Israeli government with a highly critical HRW report on destruction of houses in the Rafah refugee camp in Gaza in 2004. Israeli officials consider the human rights group biased in favor of the Palestinians.

Garlasco said he concluded the explosion was caused by a 155 mm shell of the type Israel uses. He viewed shrapnel collected from the scene by a Palestinian ordinance disposal unit, and in X-rays of Palestinians wounded in the blast.

Maj. Gen. Meir Klifi, who headed the Israeli investigation, said tests on the shrapnel removed from the body of a girl in an Israeli hospital proved it was not from a shell.

"I'm sure that all over that beach there is shrapnel," he told The Associated Press on Wednesday. "So no wonder that there is 155 mm shrapnel to be found."

Israeli army spokesman Capt. Jacob Dallal said Wednesday that the beach area is used by militants, so "this is also a battleground. This area is used for terror groups to launch (rockets) on Israel," noting that a rocket was fired from the area on Wednesday.

Garlasco said more work needs to be done before a solid conclusion can be drawn.

Israeli analyst Gerald Steinberg, who heads a watchdog group called NGO Monitor, charged that Garlasco is not a credible expert, and Human Rights Watch officials have "a long and carefully documented history of exploiting human rights claims to promote a clear anti-Israel political and ideological bias."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060614...HE0BHNlYwN0bWE-

 

Ahhhhhhhhhhhah!! That is where the rumor was coming from!!!

Khahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

They knew that they were caught with their ass floss down so as we expected, they kicked in part II of the plan!!

Let us dilute the event!!

As I told you before, it was broadcasted before the beginning of the intifada Osama123! And the 13 years old girl was a second class actress brought from an acting schools in Gaza!!

As a matter of fact, the people you saw, including the dead children are all actors!!

We have seen it before with Muhamad El Durah!

Hundreds of kids died before and nobody cared and nobody blamed the Palestinians for their killing; only when Mohamad Al Durah's tragedy was caught on camera...We ended up killing him to frame the poor Israelis.

You fucking idiot!

In regard to Moe's "war is deceit" shit, Moe said, "Al Harbu Keda'h"

The literal meaning is not deceit...It is battlefield bluff you fucking moron!

The guy was a genius and worked military plans similar to the ones followed in chess games and in the planning of any battle.

Fucking morons...You want to fight Islam, do you fucking homework!

Kida'h is to make you think that I will make a move in one direction only to attack you from another (A Flank). Such tactics are used by all will respected military academies and armies.

And then Osama123 shocks the hell out of me...(NOT), by bringing Robert Spencer, who was caught so many time forging events (Including Hassan Nasrallah's speach) who quotes Palestinian Media watch!!!

Of couuuuuuuuuuuuuuurse!! Was I stupid?? Obviously, such information will only come from a site like Palestinian Media watch, a hard core Zionist site, similar to the fraudulent DEBKA FILE and from a guy like spencer bent at starting a war between Christians and Muslims that will only benefit the Jews who will be standing on the side laughing their asses off at the stupidity of both sides!

Now if that is not deceit I do not know what is!!

Thanks for the laugh Osama123

 

I knew that would “Wael” you up. Face up, Wael: the Palestinians are losing credibility in the world, and a growing number of people who doubt Palestinian claims are not always Jewish or pro-Israeli. Go ahead and say the pro-Isreali propaganda machine fools everyone. But it’s not the Zionists who managed to persuade more people to cast doubt on the credibility of the Palestinian people. It’s the Palestinians themselves who caused people to cast doubt on them. Actions speak louder than words.

Here’s another example of how people cast doubt:

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“The "expert" who blames Israel of Gaza beach blast
http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=5374


From Haaretz [http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/726830.html]:

"...the British newspaper The Independent on Wednesday quoted a former Pentagon “battle damage expert,” who visited the site of the incident, as saying that “all the evidence points” to a “155mm Israeli land-based artillery shell” as the cause of the blast.

“According to the report, Marc Garlasco also called for an independent inquiry into the deaths, saying that physical evidence, including shell fragments, shrapnel and the type of injuries ‘made Israeli shelling easily the likeliest cause.’”

His background? From Mother Jones[http://www.motherjones.com/radio/2005/10/garlasco_bio.html]:

Marc Garlasco is the senior military analyst at Human Rights Watch (HRW), and is HRW’s resident expert on battle damage assessment, military operations, and interrogations. Marc also leads HRW’s work on Abu Ghurayb, civilian military contractors, and non-lethal weapons.

Marc is the co-author of two HRW reports: “Razing Rafah: Mass Home demolitions in the Gaza Strip,” and “Off Target: The Conduct of the War and Civilian Casualties in Iraq.” He led a team of researchers in July 2004 on a one-month mission to Gaza, Israel, and Egypt to investigate home demolitions in Rafah. Before that he led a five-week mission in 2003 throughout Iraq to assess the conduct of the war in Iraq.

He also appeared to be a key person responsible for disclosing the previously classified and secret practice of renditions of terrorists suspects

Lately he has been peddling the Haditha massacre myth... which has been seriously questioned. He has said, ” “What happened at Haditha appears to be outright murder. The Haditha massacre will go down as “Iraq’s My Lai” in his view.

HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH is a notoriously anti-Israel advocacy group funded by George Soros-who, he proudly admits, is anti-Israel. According to NGO Monitor and well-respected Professor Anna Bayefsky, Human Rights Watch “has a lot of explaining to do when it comes to anti-Semitism and anti-Israel bias.”

He has participated in panels with anti-Semitic conspiracy-monger Karen Kwiatkowski.

In other words, how independent is this expert and how wrong was it for the Independent to rely on him?

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