Fine, if you're that bored, why don't you check out this thread? Then you can come back and tell us all about how you've changed your mind. Deal?
Hey dummy, didn't you know that some ref's job is to watch just certain parts of the action? Doh! Man, watching the neoconzionists try to defend themselves by attacking others, do nothing but come off as notshitstinkingneverdoanythingwrongaboveanycriticism is such a laugh... Dude, if you would pull that grandiose head out of your arse for just once, you might just have a chance of getting me out of your head...as it stands, I am permanently there hounding you, even when I do nothing. Seek out some psychological help....oh wait, you failed in that endeavor too...thinking you are too smart for shrinks, trusting no one but pharmaceutical companies... Man, you is lost...
Another classic example of a person who says that others are wrong, then justifies exactly the same behavior in himself that he accuses others of.... Once again, you is lost....
What do you think I would do if you were truly 'permanently there hounding me', as you claim? Here's a few hints: You already know I have hoards of cash, more than I know what to with. You also know I have no respect for any of the laws our fine politicians have written for us. Hiring the services of a few professional 'revenge specialists' to find your sorry troll ass and serve up a nice heaping pile of <b>pain</b> would be a nice entertaining way to spend a few days, don't you think? Add it all up, and you have no idea how lucky you are that you're completely <b>wrong</b> about your supposed effect on me. See, you can't win. Even if you 'won', you'd <b>lose... big time.</b>
Yes, we have a deal but...change my mind about what? That you have lost all credibility? No, that thread doesn't change my mind on that point at least as far as this topic is concerned. That your post was hypocritical and you are just as equal to the task of trolling as the one you accuse? LOL. No, the thread you directed me to reinforced that point quite nicely That you resorted to an ad hominen attack in lieu of a genuine argument? No, that thread was irrelevant to that point. It is in black and white on this thread. Your argument was that if ZZZzzz supports a point of view then that argument is invalid LMAO. It doesn't get more fallacious than that! :eek: *shrugs*
Here's the scoop: our media would never be allowed to report this but here it is. The rasicm over there is pretty bad, combined with religious extremism 'Gaza is a jail. Nobody is allowed to leave. We are all starving now' By Patrick Cockburn in Gaza 09/08/06 "The Independent" -- -- Gaza is dying. The Israeli siege of the Palestinian enclave is so tight that its people are on the edge of starvation. Here on the shores of the Mediterranean a great tragedy is taking place that is being ignored because the world's attention has been diverted by wars in Lebanon and Iraq. A whole society is being destroyed. There are 1.5 million Palestinians imprisoned in the most heavily populated area in the world. Israel has stopped all trade. It has even forbidden fishermen to go far from the shore so they wade into the surf to try vainly to catch fish with hand-thrown nets. Many people are being killed by Israeli incursions that occur every day by land and air. A total of 262 people have been killed and 1,200 wounded, of whom 60 had arms or legs amputated, since 25 June, says Dr Juma al-Saqa, the director of the al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City which is fast running out of medicine. Of these, 64 were children and 26 women. This bloody conflict in Gaza has so far received only a fraction of the attention given by the international media to the war in Lebanon. It was on 25 June that the Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit was taken captive and two other soldiers were killed by Palestinian militants who used a tunnel to get out of the Gaza Strip. In the aftermath of this, writes Gideon Levy in the daily Haaretz, the Israeli army "has been rampaging through Gaza - there's no other word to describe it - killing and demolishing, bombing and shelling, indiscriminately". Gaza has essentially been reoccupied since Israeli troops and tanks come and go at will. In the northern district of Shajhayeh they took over several houses last week and stayed five days. By the time they withdrew, 22 Palestinians had been killed, three houses were destroyed and groves of olive, citrus and almond trees had been bulldozed. Fuad al-Tuba, the 61-year-old farmer who owned a farm here, said: "They even destroyed 22 of my bee-hives and killed four sheep." He pointed sadly to a field, its brown sandy earth churned up by tracks of bulldozers, where the stumps of trees and broken branches with wilting leaves lay in heaps. Near by a yellow car was standing on its nose in the middle of a heap of concrete blocks that had once been a small house. His son Baher al-Tuba described how for five days Israeli soldiers confined him and his relatives to one room in his house where they survived by drinking water from a fish pond. "Snipers took up positions in the windows and shot at anybody who came near," he said. "They killed one of my neighbours called Fathi Abu Gumbuz who was 56 years old and just went out to get water." Sometimes the Israeli army gives a warning before a house is destroyed. The sound that Palestinians most dread is an unknown voice on their cell phone saying they have half an hour to leave their home before it is hit by bombs or missiles. There is no appeal. But it is not the Israeli incursions alone that are destroying Gaza and its people. In the understated prose of a World Bank report published last month, the West Bank and Gaza face "a year of unprecedented economic recession. Real incomes may contract by at least a third in 2006 and poverty to affect close to two thirds of the population." Poverty in this case means a per capita income of under $2 (£1.06) a day. There are signs of desperation everywhere. Crime is increasing. People do anything to feed their families. Israeli troops entered the Gaza industrial zone to search for tunnels and kicked out the Palestinian police. When the Israelis withdrew they were replaced not by the police but by looters. On one day this week there were three donkey carts removing twisted scrap metal from the remains of factories that once employed thousands. "It is the worst year for us since 1948 [when Palestinian refugees first poured into Gaza]," says Dr Maged Abu-Ramadan, a former ophthalmologist who is mayor of Gaza City. "Gaza is a jail. Neither people nor goods are allowed to leave it. People are already starving. They try to live on bread and falafel and a few tomatoes and cucumbers they grow themselves." The few ways that Gazans had of making money have disappeared. Dr Abu-Ramadan says the Israelis "have destroyed 70 per cent of our orange groves in order to create security zones." Carnations and strawberries, two of Gaza's main exports, were thrown away or left to rot. An Israeli air strike destroyed the electric power station so 55 per cent of power was lost. Electricity supply is now becoming almost as intermittent as in Baghdad. The Israeli assault over the past two months struck a society already hit by the withdrawal of EU subsidies after the election of Hamas as the Palestinian government in March. Israel is withholding taxes owed on goods entering Gaza. Under US pressure, Arab banks abroad will not transfer funds to the government. Two thirds of people are unemployed and the remaining third who mostly work for the state are not being paid. Gaza is now by far the poorest region on the Mediterranean. Per capita annual income is $700, compared with $20,000 in Israel. Conditions are much worse than in Lebanon where Hizbollah liberally compensates war victims for loss of their houses. If Gaza did not have enough troubles this week there were protest strikes and marches by unpaid soldiers, police and security men. These were organised by Fatah, the movement of the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, also known as Abu Mazen, which lost the election to Hamas in January. His supporters marched through the streets waving their Kalashnikovs in the air. "Abu Mazen you are brave," they shouted. "Save us from this disaster." Sour-looking Hamas gunmen kept a low profile during the demonstration but the two sides are not far from fighting it out in the streets. The Israeli siege and the European boycott are a collective punishment of everybody in Gaza. The gunmen are unlikely to be deterred. In a bed in Shifa Hospital was a sturdy young man called Ala Hejairi with wounds to his neck, legs, chest and stomach. "I was laying an anti-tank mine last week in Shajhayeh when I was hit by fire from an Israeli drone," he said. "I will return to the resistance when I am better. Why should I worry? If I die I will die a martyr and go to paradise." His father, Adel, said he was proud of what his son had done adding that three of his nephews were already martyrs. He supported the Hamas government: "Arab and Western countries want to destroy this government because it is the government of the resistance." As the economy collapses there will be many more young men in Gaza willing to take Ala Hejairi's place. Untrained and ill-armed most will be killed. But the destruction of Gaza, now under way, will ensure that no peace is possible in the Middle East for generations to come. The deadly toll * After the kidnap of Cpl Gilad Shalit by Palestinians on 25 June, Israel launched a massive offensive and blockade of Gaza under the operation name Summer Rains. * The Gaza Strip's 1.3 million inhabitants, 33 per cent of whom live in refugee camps, have been under attack for 74 days. * More than 260 Palestinians, including 64 children and 26 women, have been killed since 25 June. One in five is a child. One Israeli soldier has been killed and 26 have been wounded. * 1,200 Palestinians have been injured, including up to 60 amputations. A third of victims brought to hospital are children. * Israeli warplanes have launched more than 250 raids on Gaza, hitting the two power stations and the foreign and Information ministries. * At least 120 Palestinian structures including houses, workshops and greenhouses have been destroyed and 160 damaged by the Israelis. * The UN has criticised Israel's bombing, which has caused an estimated $1.8bn in damage to the electricity grid and leaving more than a million people without regular access to drinking water. * The Israeli human rights group B'Tselem says 76 Palestinians, including 19 children, were killed by Israeli forces in August alone. Evidence shows at least 53 per cent were not participating in hostilities. * In the latest outbreak of violence, three Palestinians were killed yesterday when Israeli troops raided a West Bank town in search of a wanted militant. Two of those killed were unarmed, according to witnesses. © 2006 Independent News and Media Limited
Why didnt the thread starter include the possibility of a Canadian invasion/occupation. Excellent thread, this guy could take over for Ted Koppel. Rennick Cronkite out ps. BABABOOOEEEE
are u sayin' that also the italian media is biased against israel? we are your main allay after usa, we have a huge numbers of jews livin' in italy, our country always supported yours but unfortunately never liked the way you act. man, it's not the european media, it's the whole world besides your oversea ally usa; u sayin' that u and america are right and the whole world is wrong? u may never bullshit but u are way too biased to express a detached and fair opinion in the matter. of course there was never a palestinian nation per-se but let's go really back in time shall we? after u were driven out u came back as settlers travellin' back and forth into the land for its significance to your faith. arabs owned since the 600ad century and the population was muslim. if there was a king at the time he might have been olmar. and yes, he conquered jerusalem and i can safely state that it was the capital of palestine at the time. after 400yrs a series of wars were fought mainly with crusaders, so it wes a back and forth struggle for centuries but palestine, before was conquered by the turks, was under the ottoman empire. by then the whole of palestine was mainly inhabited by muslims-arabs. the few jews remainin' fled the territory after the inquisition begun and if am not mistaken ended up in turkey. it took more than a millenium for u to come back and once again begin to build settlements; but still in the 19th century u still couldn't make up for more than a 10th of the whole population, the remain' were all arabs. and here is when your major extremist movements was born, infact, it's at this time that u begin to emigrate to palestine and be bent on colonizin' the whole region and beyond. it's after the ottoman empire lost the war against the allies and namely britain that u had the chance to create an identity in palestine, before then u were no other than settlers and passers by. infact the british mandate and the whole balfour affair played beautifully into your hands even tho it was aggressively fought by the arabs, that infact thot they were gonna be harassed and eventually dispossessed by the jews [boy if they saw it comin']. to make a long story short the arabs owned the land and u were a near guest there. i dont really care if u were provoked by egypt and syria, that has got nothin' to do with u harassin' the palestinians non stop; u just want 'em extinct. what i find it funny is that u get all wet when some1 says israel should be wiped off the map and yet that's exactly what u aspire to do with palestine and it has been stated by many of your politicians over the years. most disgraceful is the atrocities u keep committin' against the palestinians, lettin' women give birth at checkpoints, that's like treatin' em as sub-humans dont ya think? u target civilians for no reason and the blame them if they do the same. u just adopt double standards where u can act as u wish and that's perfectly fine but if your enemy does it it's morally unacceptable. sorry i dont buy into your 'play the victim game'. just look at what u did in lebanon man, how do u justify shit like that.
What do you think I would do if you were truly 'permanently there hounding me', as you claim? Maybe kill yourself, if you couldn't score the right drugs to mask the pain. Here's a few hints: You already know I have hoards of cash, more than I know what to with. You also know I have no respect for any of the laws our fine politicians have written for us. Hiring the services of a few professional 'revenge specialists' to find your sorry troll ass and serve up a nice heaping pile of <b>pain</b> would be a nice entertaining way to spend a few days, don't you think? For the record, are you threatening to hire someone to cause harm to my person? You do know, that these days law enforcement takes these threats seriously. Add it all up, and you have no idea how lucky you are that you're completely <b>wrong</b> about your supposed effect on me. See, you can't win. Even if you 'won', you'd <b>lose... big time.</b> Unable to just ignore, you continually have to tell me, and everyone else how unaffected you are. Sure you are....
You crack me up, LoZZZer, you really do. Tell me, how exactly are YOU going to motivate your local law enforcement/pig street gang/prohibition enforcement thugs/legalized extortion racket to help or protect YOUR sorry ass? LMAO! Assuming none of them enjoy sexual favors from crusty old trolls, how the fuck could you EVER hope to motivate some lazy thug in a uniform to lift a finger on your behalf? That's just great comedy. Tell you what: Just to make the situation even funnier by possibly provoking you to <i>actually</i> file a complaint and take the inevitable barrage of condescending abuse from your presumed 'protectors'... Yes, as a matter of fact I AM threatening to do horrible illegal things to you. I'm threatening to <b>illegally</b> enter your musty 400 sq. foot SoCal basement apartment and rip all the Hezbollah banners and Che Guevara posters off your wall. Then I'll tie you up with your own Depends⢠undergarments and make you watch as I erase all the bestiality videos and Islamic snuff films from your hard drive. Then, as you lie there shitting yourself; bound, gagged and helpless, I'll have someone read you the entire text of Atlas Shrugged- twice. Every time you start crying or pleading for mercy, we will have to start the entire text over from the very beginning- all 1168 sweet didactic pages of it. However, I am NOT offering to sell you ANY illegal narcotic substances or enable you to violate prohibition in any way. Neither I nor my assistants would have any prohibited narcotics whatsoever in our possession. Not a single drug prohibition law would be infringed upon. Now, go take THAT to your esteemed local law enforcement agents, and find out if they give a shit.