Israeli envoy accuses White House of orchestrating UN resolution and

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Zzzz1, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I get it, but where's the proof they have of the UN Resolution being Obama's creation?

    Just seeing a lot of this shit about having evidence but never seeing any of the evidence. Granted, these claims come a lot from the left, but they also come from the right sometimes. It gets old.
     
    #31     Dec 28, 2016
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Egypt originally introduced the resolution. After Trump called the president of Egypt the country withdrew the resolution at the U.N. The next day three other countries, pushed by the Obama adminstration, re-introduced the same resolution.

    The Obama administration is clearly responsible for this U.N. resolution and is the most hostile administration in the history of our country to Israel - our only democratic ally in the Middle East.
     
    #32     Dec 28, 2016
  3. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    I guess @Tsing Tao was asking for evidence to support exactly this claim.

     
    #33     Dec 28, 2016
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I would agree that the Obama administration is probably the most hostile administration in history to Israel and that it would certainly be plausible for them to re-introduce this resolution. I'm just looking for a source on that assertion. Israel claims to have this evidence. Where is it?
     
    #34     Dec 28, 2016
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Yeah. Or a source, or something. I mean, we can't go around laughing at the democrats for their accusations on Russia hacking the election and asking for proof, and then turn around and say Obama designed this resolution and there is proof, but not show it.

    We can, I suppose, but it looks rather hypocritical.
     
    #35     Dec 28, 2016
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The source of the assertion can be found in the WRAL article I posted at the top of page 3 of this thread. It includes comments from the Israeli spokesman, David Keyes.
     
    #36     Dec 28, 2016
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    "We have ironclad information that emanates from sources in the Arab world and that shows the Obama administration helped craft this resolution and pushed hard for its eventual passage," David Keyes said. "We're not just going to be a punching bag and go quietly into the night."

    He did not identify the Arab sources or say how Israel obtained the information. Israel has close security ties with Egypt, the original sponsor of last week's resolution who, as the lone Arab member of the Security Council, was presenting it at the Palestinians' request. Under heavy Israeli pressure, Egypt delayed the resolution indefinitely — but other members presented it for a vote a day later. Egypt ended up voting in favor of the measure.
    Ok, but that's really just his word that such exists. When I think of evidence, I think of how the US, once upon a time, showed evidence on how a missile originating from the Ukraine took down a commercial jet (through satellite imagery, etc). Just as an example.

    Again, I - personally - believe what you're saying (what Keyes is saying) because it fits the pattern of behavior. It's just a belief, though.
     
    #37     Dec 28, 2016
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    #38     Dec 28, 2016
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  9. Zzzz1

    Zzzz1

    You left out the condition before that statement. It has to do with choosing the "one state" path. Then.... And it does make logical sense. Israel occupied Palestine decades ago and had no geographic nor historical grounds to claim it to be its land other than biblical and religious grounds.

     
    #39     Dec 28, 2016
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Adding in the line " if Israel rejects a two-state solution for peace with the Palestinian people," changes nothing. It was a ridiculous statement to make from the US Secretary of State, and he'll catch hell for it (he already is).
     
    #40     Dec 28, 2016