Israeli bill seeks to outlaw denial of Jewish state

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TorontoTrader2, May 29, 2009.

  1. Tresor

    Tresor

    a_person,

    You should not judge any political movement / any ideology / whatever by the definition. You should judge it by its fruits.

    If you judge communism by a one sentence definition (like you did with zionism), it may appear as a nice and candy-tasting ideology.

    But when you judge communism by its fruits, you will see it is an evil and criminal ideology. Same is the case with your zionism and the fruits it has delivered. Let's see what George Galloway (member of British Parliament) has to say about a few fruits of zionism:

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    #31     May 31, 2009
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    #32     May 31, 2009
  3. LOL! Why didn't you say so from the onsit! So you are a Kahana Terrorist! Buddy, the FBI is looking for your like.

    This is one other follower of Kahana group "Kach" did;



    Event #361 Baruch Goldstein massacres 29 Palestinians at the Ibrahimi mosque; Secondary massacre carried out by soldiers
    Date: Friday, 25 Feb 1994

    On 26 February 26 1994, one of the Jewish settlers in Hebron, Dr. Baruch Goldstein, a Brooklyn, N.Y.-born physician, shot and killed at least 29 Palestinians while they were praying in the Hebron mosque. Although the vast majority of the Israeli public strongly condemned this atrocity, Jewish extremists from Israel and abroad (in particular belonging to the right-wing Kach movement) expressed support of his actions.

    Following these events, Kach was outlawed. A commission of inquiry established by Chief Justice Meir Shamgar found that Goldstein had acted on his own. Some of the Israeli settlers who hailed the attack created a shrine in memory of Goldstein. Others created websites that honor his memory, and a few charity foundations that 'support his cause'.

    This massacre triggered the first ever Palestinian suicide attack against Israel

    Nabeel Abraham reports:

    After three weeks of extensive coverage, most people were left with the impression that only one massacre had occurred in Hebron on February 25. In fact, two massacres took place on that fateful Friday morning. The first was Goldstein's murder of 29 worshipers in the Ibrahimi Mosque.
    In the second massacre, 10 Palestinians were killed and more than 100 injured by Israeli soldiers "who continued to shoot at those who were trying to flee the mosque, at those who were evacuating the wounded, and at those who had gathered at the hospital in order to find out about their loved ones and donate blood" (Tikva Honig-Parnass, News From Within [P.O. Box 31417, Jerusalem], March 1994, p. 2). Honig-Parnass reported that over the course of the following 48 hours "an additional seven Palestinians were killed, and more than 200 were injured (more than 100 of those from the Gaza Strip) as soldiers continued to fire at the masses who were demonstrating daily throughout the Occupied Territories." "In drastic measures which have not been taken for a long time, 21 Palestinians were killed by live ammunition from the IDF [Israel Defence Forces] in the first six days following the massacres," Honig-Parnass added sadly. The Washington office of the Palestine Human Rights Information Center reported that in the month following Goldstein's crime, the Israeli army killed 44 Palestinians and wounded more than 800 others.
    Humanizing The Victims
    The following list of those who died at Hebron was provided by the Washington, D.C., office of the Palestine Human Rights Information Center:

    Abu Hadid, Jaber Aref Abu Sneineh, 12, eldest in family.
    Abu Hamdiyeh Gheith, Walid Thuhair, 14, one of 10 children.
    Abu Nijmeh, Marwan Mutluk Hamad, 31, married, 6 children.
    Abu Sneineh, Abdel Rahim Abdul Rahman, 47, married, 11 children (eldest child is mentally handicapped).
    Abu Sneineh, Ahmad Abdullah Mohammad Taha, 27, family of 20.
    Abu Sneineh, Ala’ Badr, 17.
    Abu Sneineh, Tareq Adnan Ashour, 12, one of 12 children.
    Abu Hussein, Khaled Khalaweh, 55, married, 8 children.
    Abu Zanouneh, Mohammad Sadeq Ayoub, 46, married, 4 children.
    Badr, Saber Musa Katbeh, 35, married, 4 children, wife pregnant.
    Burkan, Arafat Musa, 34, married, 4 children.
    Dandis, Talal Hamad, 24, married, wife pregnant.
    Fakhouri, Hatem Qader, 26, married, 2 children.
    Gheith, Mohammad Radi, 50, married.
    Idris, Mohammad Salim Idris Falah (Imam), 35, married, 2 children.
    Jabari, Suleiman Odeh, 30, married, 10 children.
    * Jabari, Abdul Haq Ibrahim, 57, married, 13 children (employee in Hebron court).
    Jabber, Zeidan Hamoudi Abdul Majid, 30, married, 4 children.
    Kafisheh, Kamal Jamal, 13.
    Karaki, Diab Abdul Latif, 20, only supporter for family.
    Karaki, Khaled Hamzi, 19.
    Marakeh, Mohammad Kifah Abdul Mu’az, 12.
    *Mojahed, Nimer Mohammad Nimer, 30, married, 3 children.
    Muhtasib, Wael Salah Abed, 29, married, 3 children.
    Muhtasib, Nour ad-Din Ibrahim, 20, father sick.
    *Natsheh, Jamil Ayed Abdul Fattah (Muezzin), 50, married, 13 children.
    Natsheh, Raed Hassan, 20, eldest child.
    Rajabi, Rami Arafat, 12.
    Zahded, Sufian Barakat, 20.
    (Information from the Hebron Graduates Union, except for persons starred, which is from fieldwork
     
    #33     May 31, 2009
  4. Tresor

    Tresor

    sameeh55,

    This is interesting. According to you, the first Palestinian suicide terrorist attack was a result of a prior Jewish terrorist attack of 26 Feb 1994 which killed 29 Palestinians (+10 by soldiers).

    I would like to know on which day (I assume it was year 1994) this first suicide attack took place and how many people were killed as a result of it. Could someone provide me with these answers please? A link would do.

    Thanks
     
    #34     May 31, 2009
  5. History of attacks

    The first Palestinian suicide attack in Israel killed eight people in April 1994 in the centre of Afula.

    Hamas said it carried out the attack in response to the killing of 29 praying Muslims in February of that year by Jewish settler Baruch Goldstein in the West Bank city of Hebron.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3256858.stm
     
    #35     May 31, 2009
  6. Every time you listen to our resident Islamonazi he makes a fool of you. Yet you keep listening...

    The Mehola Junction bombing (also known as the Beit El bombing, literally, the House of God bombing) was the first suicide attack against Israelis by Palestinian militants. It occurred on April 16, 1993.
     
    #36     May 31, 2009
  7. Hmmmmmmmmm! Let me see! BBC or wikipedia...BBC or wikipedia...BBC or wikipedia!

    Such a hard call a_person. I guess your Zionist wikipedia source trumps BBC. You win!
     
    #37     May 31, 2009
  8. Tresor

    Tresor

    Let me decide who makes fool of me and who doesn't.

    Sameeh55's source (BBC) differs from your source (wikipedia). Please let me decide (after a little research) which source is right.

    Regards
     
    #38     May 31, 2009
  9. Tresor

    Tresor

    OK,

    There are many disagreements over what the first suicide attack was on the net. I wrote an e-mail to Mr Galloway :D

    Hope he gives me the feedback thus confirming / denying BBC or wikipedia.

    I will guys let you know as soon as he writes back.

    Regards
     
    #39     May 31, 2009
  10. There are no disagreements, the first Palestinian suicide attack preceded the crime committed by Baruch Goldstein. It took place in 1993 and Hamas claimed responsibility for it.
    The Jerusalem Post on Dec. 24, 1993: "About a dozen suicide bombings have been attempted since the PLO-Israel accord was signed in September."


    Not that it matters anyway as the Arabs had committed thousands of regular (non-suicide) terror attacks and murdered tens of thousands of Israeli civilians since Israel was established.

    Besides a crime (heinous as it was) committed by one jew and virtually unanimously, unambiguously and loudly condemned and denounced by the entire world Jewry is NOT an excuse for thousands of suicide and non-suicide terror attacks against civilians.

    PS Galloway is a lying hateful degenerate, the biggest anti-semite and Israel-hater in the UK (or perhaps Europe). Find yourself another "unbiased" source.
    George Galloway: Describing himself as "being on the anti-imperialist left," Galloway ranks among the most impassioned advocates of the de facto alliance that has been forged between Western leftists and radical Islamists
    * Admirer of Saddam Hussein, Fidel Castro, and Joseph Stalin
    * Illegally reveived millions of dollars stolen from the United Nations Oil-For-Food Program, in exchange for his public denunciations of the UN sanctions against Iraq
     
    #40     May 31, 2009