Israeli bill seeks to outlaw denial of Jewish state

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TorontoTrader2, May 29, 2009.

  1. Tresor

    Tresor

    I am not anti-Israel, I do not oppose the existence of this country. I am not anti-Semitic; I am neutral to any nation. In fact my life would not be such a great fun if not for Sacha Baron Cohen or Woody Allen. This is also true that I would be much happier if not for some of Isreali political leaders. Liking or disliking some members of your nation, whether you agree or not, is not being anti-Semitic.

    I am however anti-Zonist. I percive zionism to be an almost equally evil ideology to nazism or communism or fascizm. Stop equalling anti-Zionism to being anti-Isreali or anti-Semitic.

    And stop insulting people wth who you disagree. Debate with them.

    Now someone please answer my question from a previous post:

    Are there any other countries (other than Israel), are there any other nations (other than Jews) that are protected by US laws similarily as is the case with Israel / Jews (Global anti-semitism review act, the proposal of the act to outlaw denial of Israel, maybe other acts)?

    I need this information to allow me to make an unbiased opinion.

    Regards
     
    #21     May 31, 2009
  2. Answer: No.

    Reason: I personally think it is guilt. There is historical evidence that the US knew what Hitler was doing, and the US was unconcerned, and let it go on for quite awhile before stepping in.

    I think US knew about Auschwitz, and the band played on.

    America is always trying to purge herself of past sins.
     
    #22     May 31, 2009
  3. I think the real question is who is God with? The Jews have withstood the test of time, something that no other group in the world has been able to do. The Jews suvived their escape from Egypt(with help from God and leadership from Moses),They survived the babylonians, survived the Jewish-Roman wars, the 400 years of arab rule in the 600-1000 a.d., the crusades with the muslims, the ottoman era and the nazi's. (I probably left out a few more, but those are the more well known ones)

    I mean, no other group has been able to stand the test of time...thats why you never hear of groups like the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, Jebusites, ect... as those groups have all been killed off.

    When the Jews start to stray from God, is usually when they start to get beaten down by some of these other groups, but they always go back to God. But the Jews are Gods chosen people. They will always be around. So if you are not a Jew, its best for you to at least by allies with them. For if God is with them, you do NOT want to be against them.
     
    #23     May 31, 2009
  4. Rationale for expelling all Arabs from all parts of historical Israel. History has proven that Prof. Dershowitz position in regards to the Arabs was incorrect and R. Kahane was right all along!

    Debate - Rabbi Meir Kahane vs. Prof. Alan Dershowitz, 1/4
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    THEY MUST GO! War is the only solution in this case. "War has never solved anything except putting an end to slavery, nazism, fascism, and communism". Islamism is next ism that is going to be put on the trash heap of history through war.
     
    #24     May 31, 2009
  5. these are mutually exclusive statements as I believe I already told you in one of our previous conversations. It also happens to be an excellent example of your ignorance.
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zionism

    I percive zionism to be an almost equally evil ideology to nazism or communism or fascizm. Stop equalling anti-Zionism to being anti-Isreali or anti-Semitic.
    No one gives a damn about your perceptions. When you're spewing nonsense and redefining well-established concepts and definitions to suit your ignorant views be prepared to be called an ignorant idiot even if you sincerely perceive this nonsense to be correct.
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zionism

    And stop insulting people wth who you disagree. Debate with them.
    Your posts are so idiotic that debating them is absurd.

    Are there any other countries (other than Israel), are there any other nations (other than Jews) that are protected by US laws similarily as is the case with Israel / Jews (Global anti-semitism review act, the proposal of the act to outlaw denial of Israel, maybe other acts)?
    Here is a great example of your idiotic views. There are no laws in the US protecting Israel and the Jews or outlawing the denial of Israel.
     
    #25     May 31, 2009
  6. Tresor

    Tresor

    Thanks. Do you guys think that penalising of denial of Israel as proposed in the draft act can be of thread to the freedom of speech? Does the draft act provide for the penalising or is it just a fake news?


    Of course US knew about Auschwitz
     
    #26     May 31, 2009
  7. Tresor

    Tresor

    a_person, you seem to be a bright person. So are the members of this forum. It would be hard for them to understand why you limit a concept of zionism to creating of a state.

    Zionism can be discussed and regarded as political movement. It can be also discussed and regarded as ideology. This ideology led to many terrorist attacks by Jews on foreigners.

    Your link is one of tens if not thousands definitions available on the net.

    Zionism is a racist ideology. In 1975 United Nations adopted a resolution stating that ''zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination'' (revoked in 1991).

    Look at some posts of BernardRichards. Racist Zionism at its hights!!!
     
    #27     May 31, 2009
  8. It would be hard for them to understand why you limit a concept of zionism to creating of a state.
    Because that's what it is, has always been and will always be. Is it that hard to follow the link I provided in my previous post and read the universal definition of "zionism" on the Webster dictionary's website?

    Zionism can be discussed and regarded as political movement. It can be also discussed and regarded as ideology.
    No it cannot be, it's not an ideology or political movement, it's a movement to establish a jewish homeland in the Middle East. Nothing else. Just because Islamonazis like sameeh and their ignorant leftist allies like yourself are trying hard to redefine the definition does not mean it's no longer valid.
     
    #28     May 31, 2009
  9. LOL, it's a good one. The resolution was supported by blood-thirsty African totalitarian dictatorships, the block of communist dictatorships and of course all Islamic dictatorships and theocracies on the planet.

    The resolution was opposed by the entire civilized world (unfortunately a minority among UN members).

    The resolution of 1975

    Sponsored by: (25) Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Cuba, Dahomey, Egypt, Guinea, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libyan Arab Republic, Mauritania, Morocco, North Yemen, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, South Yemen, Sudan, Syrian Arab Republic, Tunisia, and United Arab Emirates.

    Voted yes: (72) The 25 sponsoring nations above, and additionally 47 nations: Albania, Bangladesh, Brazil, Bulgaria, Burundi, Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Chad, People's Republic of China, Congo, Cyprus, Czechoslovakia, Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, German Democratic Republic, Grenada, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Iran, Laos, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Rwanda, São Tomé and Príncipe, Senegal, Sri Lanka, Tanzania, Turkey, Uganda, Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

    Voted no: (36) Australia, Austria, Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Canada, Central African Republic, Costa Rica, Dalriada, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Fiji, Finland, France, Federal Republic of Germany, Haiti, Honduras, Iceland, Republic of Ireland, Israel, Italy, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Luxembourg, Malawi, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Swaziland, Sweden, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, United States of America, Uruguay.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_3379

    We know what side you're on my ignorant Israel-hating friend. Guess why it was revoked in 1991. Because it was a fucking embarrassment for the entire UN.
     
    #29     May 31, 2009
  10. Spoken like a true Nazi Jamil! In other word, you want to purify the land from the people who live on it for thousand of years.
     
    #30     May 31, 2009