Israel Under Attack

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. wildchild

    wildchild

    Whats all this non-sense about Palestinians being different than Hamas?
     
    #211     Oct 18, 2023
  2. Jews against Israeli genocide.

     
    #212     Oct 18, 2023
  3. Some might compare this to the infamous Jan. 6 "insurrection". Acts of violence, arrests, illegal entry. Somebody has to say it.
     
    #213     Oct 18, 2023
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  4. elderado

    elderado

    interesting

     
    #214     Oct 18, 2023
  5. UsualName

    UsualName

    This right here should show you how serious our national security assessment of this situation is:

     
    #215     Oct 18, 2023
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    This has nothing to do with the war in Israel. The negotiations for an 2024 election deal between the government and the opposition in Venezuela have been going on for months with the Biden administration agreeing to drop sanctions if a deal was reached.

    Venezuela, opposition sign election deal; US weighs sanctions relief
    https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...al-paving-way-us-sanctions-relief-2023-10-17/

    Sanctions Lift Would Boost Venezuelan Oil Exports to the US
    August 25, 2023
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-would-boost-venezuelan-oil-exports-to-the-us
     
    #216     Oct 18, 2023
  7. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    This whole hospital thing has made one thing quite clear, to me at least. Right or wrong, in the current environment, Israel is one or two missiles hitting the wrong place away from losing whatever popular (public) support it currently enjoys. That's not a good place to be for them unfortunately. And of course the rest of the world will hate America all that much more too. Not good.
     
    #217     Oct 19, 2023
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  8. I agree completely. They cannot win the PR war and the PR would will influence policy, like it or not. There is no clean way to fight this war or any war. There will be collateral damage, dead civilians and kids. If they go scorched earth to try and eliminate Hamas the collateral damage will be massive. If they go in with special ops and limited troops it'll take forever, their own casualties will be quite large, few if any prisoners will be rescued, and they'll still be taking the PR hit. When the current hostilities finally ease up, a unsustainable "peace" will begin and everyone will regroup until the next assualt is launched.
     
    #218     Oct 19, 2023
  9. smallfil

    smallfil

    In the greater scheme of things, this is about Israel's existential threat. Israel thru its leaders have put off dealing with Hamas all these years until, it reaches the point that they have to act and deal with Hamas finally. The reason being, their fear of Israeli casualties from a ground war in Hamas. Now, they will deal with a bigger mess because they allowed Hamas to grow stronger than they have ever been. Hamas has had all the luxury of creating huge labyrinths of tunnels to smuggle weapons into the Gaza Strip. Estimates are the tunnels comprise 400 square miles which means they probably have tunnels right under Israel itself and Egypt.
     
    #219     Oct 19, 2023
  10. And the flipside has made it quite clear that there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that Hama could do and lose the favor of our new world. They have already done the unthinkables and their stock went up immediately.

    An Israeli missile could hit a civilian target (did not happen in this instance but whatever) and the world would turn to rage.

    But Hamas could cross over and produce some more videos of babies being decapitated and, hey, let's lower the American flag in the Capitol Building and raise the Isis Flag to show out solidarity.
     
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    #220     Oct 19, 2023