Israel launches "preemptive strikes" against Iran

Discussion in 'Politics' started by insider trading, Jun 12, 2025.

  1. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    They were "right" because they said so. You I guess were born under that rock.
     
    #431     Jun 23, 2025
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  2. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    TLDR

    Do you believe 100% of propaganda that confirms your belief or only 50%?
     
    #432     Jun 23, 2025
  3. VicBee

    VicBee

    They were right because they took pics of the tunnels and bunker under the hospital. But would anything convince you or do you need to see with your own eyes?
     
    #433     Jun 23, 2025
  4. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    “Where men meet glory” it’s the Pat Tillman story. That shows you how far the war propaganda machine will go to twist its version of the truth. But I know we all know 99% of anything is a lie nowadays.
     
    #434     Jun 23, 2025
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  5. Israelis are pouring it on pretty hard in central Tehran today.
     
    #435     Jun 23, 2025
  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    You saying the United States does not give weapons to Israel or you saying Israel does not have it's own "bunker buster bombs" that's been used in the past against Palestine and Iran ?

    For what its worth, I've seen Israel's Air Force F-15s on a runway with "bunker buster bombs".

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    Anything else ?

    My best friend son was injured (lost an arm) in an attack at an Iraq airbase. The missiles were fired from Iran. Not news enough for America that the attack from Iran was in response to Trump ordering the killing of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani...the killing of Soleimani was big news for America.

    Murder-for-hire plot: In November 2024, the Justice Department announced charges against an IRGC asset and two local operatives for a murder-for-hire plot targeting an American journalist critical of the Iranian regime.

    https://www.justice.gov/archives/op...nd-related-charges-against-irgc-asset-and-two

    It's believed that one of those local operatives escaped back to Iran but documents show he had connections to elite U.S. military soldiers.

    Recently, there was an arrest of former Army Rangers who robbed a military armory at one of our elite military bases. Those arrested soldiers are connected to radical right-wing groups in the United States...selling stolen military equipment and paraphernalia to White Supremacy groups. Further, one of the homes the two veterans of our elite military unites...the home contained a stockpile of stolen weapons.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/07/us/military-veterans-nazi-white-supremacy-arrest.html

    This story bothers me the most because it's an elite military base I once serve at and still go on vacations with a few elite military soldiers (retired) and still living in the area...our vacation consist of extreme winter camping in the Olympic National Forest.

    Cyberattacks and hacking: In September 2024, the US indicted three Iranians for attempting to hack the 2020 Trump campaign and spreading disinformation.

    Sanctions violations: Several individuals have been arrested for violating sanctions against Iran, including providing material support to the IRGC.

    Agent of the Iranian government: A former FAA contractor was indicted for illegally acting as an agent of the Iranian government.

    Kidnapping conspiracy:
    In the past, Iranian intelligence officials have been indicted for attempting to kidnap or harm individuals in the US, including journalist Masih Alinejad.

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    The only propaganda involving the bombing of the nuclear sites would be the quick press conference in the U.S. that Trump/Rubio/Hegseth that said our military destroyed the three nuclear site although it is well-known that Iran spreads their nuclear capabilities at dozens of different locations around the country near civilian populations...not all at the highly publicized three isolated locations that the media is fixated with.

    Regardless, there's a connection between foreign extremists within the United States (sleeper cells) and with those in our U.S. military elite military units who have extremists views too. They are well trained and can cause harm to other Americans. It has always been a threat long before I served at Fort Campbell, Kentucky many years ago.

    Last of all, there has been more robberies of military armories since the beginning of the year in comparison to the past 10 years. Some of these robberies are at our elite military bases surrounded (e.g. barracks, guards, MP patrols) by elite military soldiers. :mad:

    That's scary and it implies there's inside connections...not propaganda. :banghead:

    Simply, the danger is already within the United States which is something Trump should have learned after the assassination attempt on his own life in Pennsylvania when a person (An American named Thomas Matthew Crooks with connections to extremism) who got off shots before secret service counter sniper team (former elite military soldiers) took him out.

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    #436     Jun 23, 2025
  7. Tuxan

    Tuxan

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    #437     Jun 23, 2025
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #438     Jun 23, 2025
  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    As a kid (late 1970s), my old man once took five of my friends and I to an abandon hospital in the southern part of Illinois for exploration of tunnels beneath the hospital.

    If America had been bombed during WWII...the U.S. military would have used the hospital as a bunker for patients who could not be evacuated and for nearby U.S. military personnel to seek shelter.

    It would be foolish of us to think other countries are not doing the same as in using their hospitals the same way.

    Today, there are about +100 abandon hospitals and asylums across the United States. Many of them in rural communities.

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    #439     Jun 23, 2025
  10. As discussed the other day, Russia is well over its head in Ukraine and does not have the goodies to give Iran when Iran needs it the most. If Russia were not over-extended it would be packing missiles, air defense, planes etc into Iran bigtime right now.

    Instead Iran is in Moscow right now and the most Russia can do is to participate in some conniving about how to do terrorist attacks. Not saying that is insignificant. Just sayin it is not what Iran needs most right now.

    The American stealth 52's flew into Iran totally undetected and un-intercepted. You can say, okay, well those are state of the art. Except Israel struck Fordow again today/yesterday and throughout Iran, also un-intercepted- mostly I suppose I should say.
     
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    #440     Jun 23, 2025