Israel launches "preemptive strikes" against Iran

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  1. Tuxan

    Tuxan

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    #341     Jun 20, 2025
  2. In Gaza, Israel - right from the get-go- encountered a scenario where Hamas -literally- established its headquarters and a honeycomb of tunnels right under the largest hospital in Gaza.

    And beyond that, Hamas has always operated with just pubic hair's width or less of of separation from civilians and hospitals and relief agencies. In fairness to Israel, it's much tougher environment for them when it comes to avoiding civilians. It does not cover all of their sins but the reality is that Hamas goes where the civilians and hospitals and relief agencies are for cover.

    On the other hand, Iran either deliberately fired on that hospital or deliberately fired into a civilian area.

    We don't need to go back and forth for ten posts on this. Let the viewers decide.
     
    #342     Jun 20, 2025
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The proper summary is that Iran's mullah regime is keeping the people in the dark so they cannot coordinate to rise up in revolt.

    Iran’s internet blackout leaves its citizens in the dark about war with Israel
    https://nypost.com/2025/06/20/world...-leaves-public-in-dark-about-war-with-israel/

    As the war between Israel and Iran hits the one-week mark, Iranians have spent nearly half of the conflict in a near-communication blackout, unable to connect not only with the outside world but also with their neighbors and loved ones across the country.

    Civilians are left unaware of when and where Israel will strike next, despite Israeli forces issuing warnings through their Persian-language online channels.

    When the missiles land, disconnected phone and web services mean not knowing for hours or days if their family or friends are among the victims.

    That’s left many scrambling on various social media apps to see what’s happening — again, only a glimpse of life able to reach the internet in a nation of over 80 million people.

    Activists see it as a form of psychological warfare for a nation all-too familiar with state information controls and targeted internet shutdowns during protests and unrest.

    “The Iranian regime controls the information sphere really, really tightly,” Marwa Fatafta, the Berlin-based policy and advocacy director for digital rights group Access Now, said in an interview with The Associated Press. “We know why the Iranian regime shuts down. It wants to control information. So their goal is quite clear.”

    War with Israel tightens information space
    But this time, it’s happening during a deadly conflict that erupted on June 13 with Israeli airstrikes targeting nuclear and military sites, top generals and nuclear scientists.

    At least 657 people, including 263 civilians, have been killed in Iran and more than 2,000 wounded, according to a Washington-based group called Human Rights Activists.

    Iran has retaliated by firing 450 missiles and 1,000 drones at Israel, according to Israeli military estimates. Most have been shot down by Israel’s multitiered air defenses, but at least 24 people in Israel have been killed and hundreds others wounded.

    Guidance from Israeli authorities, as well as round-the-clock news broadcasts, flows freely and consistently to Israeli citizens, creating in the last seven days an uneven picture of the death and destruction brought by the war.

    The Iranian government contended Friday that it was Israel who was “waging a war on truth and human conscience.”

    In a post on X, a social media platform blocked for many of its citizens, Iran’s Foreign Ministry asserted Israel banned foreign media from covering missile strikes.

    The statement added that Iran would organize “global press tours to expose Israel’s war crimes” in the country. Iran is one of the world’s top jailer of journalists, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists, and in the best of times, reporters face strict restrictions.

    Internet-access advocacy group NetBlocks.org reported on Friday that Iran had been disconnected from the global internet for 36 hours, with its live metrics showing that national connectivity remained at only a few percentage points of normal levels.

    The group said a handful of users have been able to maintain connectivity through virtual private networks.

    Few avenues exist to get information
    Those lucky few have become lifelines for Iranians left in the dark. In recent days, those who have gained access to mobile internet for a limited time describe using that fleeting opportunity to make calls on behalf of others, checking in on elderly parents and grandparents, and locating those who have fled Tehran.

    The only access to information Iranians do have is limited to websites in the Islamic Republic.

    Meanwhile, Iran’s state-run television and radio stations offer irregular updates on what’s happening inside the country, instead focusing their time on the damage wrought by their strikes on Israel.

    The lack of information going in or out of Iran is stunning, considering that the advancement of technology in recent decades has only brought far-flung conflicts in Ukraine, the Gaza Strip and elsewhere directly to a person’s phone anywhere in the world.

    That direct line has been seen by experts as a powerful tool to shift public opinion about any ongoing conflict and potentially force the international community to take a side.

    The only access to information Iranians do have is limited to websites in the Islamic Republic.

    Meanwhile, Iran’s state-run television and radio stations offer irregular updates on what’s happening inside the country, instead focusing their time on the damage wrought by their strikes on Israel.

    The lack of information going in or out of Iran is stunning, considering that the advancement of technology in recent decades has only brought far-flung conflicts in Ukraine, the Gaza Strip and elsewhere directly to a person’s phone anywhere in the world.

    That direct line has been seen by experts as a powerful tool to shift public opinion about any ongoing conflict and potentially force the international community to take a side.

    “I think most likely they’re just afraid of the internet getting used to cause mass unrest in the next phase of whatever is happening,” Yahayanejad said. “I mean, some of it could be, of course, planned by the Israelis through their agents on the ground, and some of this could be just a spontaneous unrest by the population once they figure out that the Iranian government is badly weakened.
     
    #343     Jun 20, 2025
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  4. VicBee

    VicBee

    No need to even invoke decisions made by the winners of WWII. Half the countries in the region wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for pre and post WJews originate from the land now called Israel. The region's na
    You are funnier than usual!
    None of the following countries existed prior to 1929 through 1946: Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Yemen. All were subjects of the Ottoman empire with English and French colonial influences within, until the fall of the Ottoman empire in 1922, when the western powers established control over their zones of influence.
    Israel's creation (1948) came at the same time as the creation of all the nations around it. Mind you, at the time, all were willing to accept Jews in the yet undefined region that eventually came to be known as Palestine (by the Arab world), as long as they remained subjects of an islamic nation.
    Before anyone had a chance to decide the future of the Jewish Diaspora they wrestled the land from the Brits and Arabs and created the state of Israel.
     
    #344     Jun 21, 2025
  5. VicBee

    VicBee

    Are you fkg kidding?!?

     
    #345     Jun 21, 2025
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  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    No you are. Funny, funny, fun.

    They wrested it .... big biceps huh?

    So they won the deed .... to the land - they stole.

    What would the Arabs get if they instead won the corner bar arm wrestling event? Henny Youngman, Milton Berle or Jack Benny to perform for them nightly for a month?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_terrorism
     
    #346     Jun 21, 2025
  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    M.E. Conflict is three things.

    1. Jews and Palestinians.
    2. see above.
    3. see above.

    Obfuscate all you want.

    Now who's following who around? But unlike yourself being all sensitive about it - don't give a fack.
     
    #347     Jun 21, 2025
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    90% of the Muslims killed in the Middle East are killed by their fellow Muslims.

    Somehow you have forgotten about the Iraq-Iran war and all the other Muslim on Muslim conflicts.
     
    #348     Jun 21, 2025
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  9. Had no right?! Jews are the indigenous people of that land. Jews are the original owners of the land until Muslims drove them out and stole the land from the Jews.

    Rights!? What imaginary rights are you thinking of? The person/country that has the right to give land is the country with the biggest guns/army. That is how it has worked since the beginning of time.
     
    #349     Jun 21, 2025
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  10. It is 100% about Islam. Muslims are commanded to kill. Islam is a murder cult. Have you ever heard of Sunni or Shia muslims?

    Muslims will be raging war until the end of time. Muslims are commanded to endlessly seek complete world domination.

    If you are one of their subjects or slaves, you will have three options:
    1. convert
    2. pay tax and live as a 15th rate citizen
    3. die

    Those are the only options in Islam. There are no other options.
     
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    #350     Jun 21, 2025