Israel launches "preemptive strikes" against Iran

Discussion in 'Politics' started by insider trading, Jun 12, 2025 at 8:19 PM.

  1. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Always remember, Vandzant was for years talking up his life, top dog trader and songwriter to the stars. He PMs me asking if two grand a month was enough to live in Colombia as he could save on his rent.

    Backed against a wall he said he had nearly a hundred K in his investment fund. That's all he had. Made it seem like he had a Bentley pickup.

    Never listen to advice from scrubs, they are poor because they are in some critical way, stupid.
     
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  2. There has never been forced regime change in a nuclear armed country.There wont be without nukes or dirty bombs being used.
     


  3. Iran's missile weight capacity varies by missile type. Some short-range ballistic missiles (SRBMs) like the Fateh-110 can carry a 500 kg payload, while the Shahab-2 can carry around 770 kg. Medium-range missiles like the Shahab-3 can carry a 1,000-1,200 kg warhead. Iran also has cruise missiles like the Khalid Farzh, capable of carrying a 1,000 kg warhead. The Khorramshahr missile has a payload capacity of 1,800 kg
     
  4. Quite so. The land of Rumi, Hafiz, Omar Khayam. Not hot heads.

    The Persian culture was contaminated and downgraded by the Arab muslim invasion. The muslims tend to make everything rigid and ugly. But Iranian culture has held on in many places, I am led to understand anyway. The Persians were high class, very educated, artsy folks. Naturally the Ayatollah and his circle try to snuff out any remnants of that.
     

  5. Not if there is the possibility of Iran hitting Israel,Saudi Arabia and other close US allies with a nuclear or dirty bomb.

    N Korea might not be able to hit The US but they can hit S Korea and Japan so The US has never attacked them for testing nukes.
     
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  6. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Echopulse, most of what you’re claiming comes from heavily biased sources and leaves out key facts. Iran was enriching uranium, yes, but under the JCPOA they were strictly limited to low-level enrichment far below weapons grade. That’s not in dispute. The IAEA, the international body tasked with verifying compliance, issued regular reports confirming Iran was following the deal. That continued until Trump unilaterally pulled out in 2018.

    Yes, there were small technical breaches like slightly exceeding heavy water limits, but Iran corrected those when flagged.

    As for the claim about military sites like Parchin, it’s true Iran was reluctant to open every location, but the JCPOA had a mechanism to request access. The IAEA repeatedly stated it had sufficient visibility to verify compliance.

    Trump scrapped the deal without having anything better to replace it. Since then, Iran enriched uranium to much higher levels, restarted advanced centrifuge operations, and moved far closer to breakout capability than before. Whatever problems the deal had, walking away from it made the situation more dangerous, not less.

    If we want to talk about Iran seriously, let’s start with what the IAEA actually found, not talking points from pressure groups that wanted the deal to fail from the start.
     
  7. Israel is hard at work at that- somewhat indirectly- right as we speak. At a minimum they want to take Iran down enough to expose their weaknesses on the world stage, which is like blood in the water for any internal opposition to make mischief. This is actually the second time Iran has been taken to that point. It is obvious and largely agreed upon that Israel gave Iran a retaliatory strike (right after Oct 7)and then let it go the last time they exchanged missile strikes. But everyone knows and agrees that Israel left Iran naked and without air defense and could have done anything to them they wanted. Exactly, exactly where they are again today.

    The next couple days will show whether Israel wants to do that again....ie, give them a harsh lesson but cap it as they did last time, or whether, to the contrary they want to really humiliate them badly to make them look like total buffoons at home and on the world stage. Truthfully, they don't have the air defenses to resist anything or won't by next week. Any Russia is in no position to help and China does not want to rock the boat while they are trying to get a better tariff deal.

    But Israel is flirting with punishing them badly enough to put regime change in the air in Iran. We should stay out of it, or at least I don't have a need to know, how the CIA is involved if efforts are made. wink. wink. The Mossad is so good at what they do and obviously so embedded in Iran we should be able to stay out of it. Damn they are good though. They missed Oct 7 but the environment requires them to be right every single day. Hard to do. They are scary good.

    This is sort of Bibi's last rodeo and he knows it. So I think that is a big factor that Iran needs to worry about. It certainly has hurt Hamas too. Bibi just wiped out all of Gaza knowing that this was his legacy and his last chance to square them away. Bibi's father was a hard core Zionist leader and his brother was killed in the raid on Entebbe you know. He does not want to end his career showing weakness.

    Israel's attacks on Iran hint at a bigger ambition: regime change

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...an-hint-bigger-goal-regime-change-2025-06-14/
     
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  8. He told his dumb MAGA supporters they weren't complying.

    In his official reports to Congress were he couldn't lie he said they were complying.


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  9. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You are an incredibly stupid man. You don't have ANY justification stop pretending you do moron. Iran had a deal and Trump ripped it up. How is the Iraq thing working out these days ? Still got everything in Afghanistan under control ? I'm sure you'll be first in line to join the military to invade Iran right ? Bet like old bone spurs you are allergic to doing this yourself you want to sacrifice other American lives not yours to pursue your brainless agenda.
     
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