Isn't Naked Shorting illegal?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by midlifeguy, Mar 29, 2008.

  1. Joab

    Joab

    Yes

    Because CROX and the hundreds of other bull shit companies out there that made nothing of value and made their boards rich beyond belief on the sweat of innocent shareholders who end up holding the bag while they are socking it away offshore are so much better for the world.

    Shorts keep the world an HONEST place and only a fool who doesn't understand reality would argue this.
     
    #31     Jul 11, 2008
  2. Only a fool would keep arguing about shorts, when we're talking 'naked shorts' rumor mongering, piling on, using CNBC as the idiots they are.
     
    #32     Jul 11, 2008
  3. Correct. What we found, going to guys in the industry, and this was years ago, is that each firm is loaded to the gills with fails . When you go to one, they'll tell you, "we're not buyin' Merrill in. Because if they do, they'll buy us in five times over.............."

    And so it goes.

    And what sort of laws are you breaking? You're basicall y having secondaries w/o shareholder approval. You have insider trading, you have fraud. Most situations will have commonalities and differences.


    This is of course, not even mentioning the Sec Act of 34 which says, "......... trade must be settled promptly or reversed out or canceled." Prompt settlement.
     
    #33     Jul 11, 2008
  4. jem

    jem

    And what sort of laws are you breaking? You're basicall y having secondaries w/o shareholder approval.

    That is an interesting take. Good point.
     
    #34     Jul 11, 2008
  5. Think about voting your proxy. We never could figure out how they pulled that off. TASER had 60mm outstanding, and 80 voted. But generally , it works like this:

    The brokers control the voting proxy, When they get to 'the number', they stop counting.

    What really amazes me, is these boards are filled with guys who scream and holler because the government wants to listen in on terrorists. It violates their constitutional rights. Yet they beat me up. My feeling is, is some towel head turns me into viseral matter, that pretty much fucks up my Bill of Rights.

    What is this, then? Stealing, Fraud. Malicious destruction. Esurping Proxie votes. Breaking the Act of 34. Insider trading....... That's why CNBC had those guys on saying 'arrest them'. Interesting that while it was happening to me and the rest of America, they didn't care. Part their crease, and they're on fire.

    Know what? Wrong is wrong. Simple as pie.
     
    #35     Jul 11, 2008
  6. Joab

    Joab

    So your saying it's alright for me too SS a stock if I still plan on holding it Long :confused:

    WTF are you talking about!

    The point being, Short Selling is American as Apple Pie and a very necessary element for a democratic market.
     
    #36     Jul 11, 2008
  7. Huh? How old are you?

    I don't care if you hold it ten minutes, or ten seconds. BUT YOU HAVE TO GET A LEGIT BORROW FIRST!!!!! Got it there, Slick?

    If you dn't get a borrow, or if you mark the ticket 'long' without being long, either creates a fail and violates the '34 Act.
     
    #37     Jul 11, 2008
  8. #38     Jul 11, 2008
  9. Confirmed Herb is banished, and CNBC knows they have a serious problem, which should have been obvious anyway. Must be they've gotten some calls . This is going to be fun. I wanna see if they can shut Gasparino up. I doubt that. They'll have to fire him. And they will.

    It will be interesting to see that changes. Notice, Cramer is Mr. Good guy, and he's getting more air (yuk.) But his ex- pal Herb is reportedly gone.
     
    #39     Jul 12, 2008
  10. Joab

    Joab

    All firms will have inventory - just because it's not borrowed at time of sale doesn't make it illegal.

    I'm 44 skippy and I've worked for brokers back rooms so let's not argue about something that you have no fucking clue about.

    There are always loop holes and EVERY firm always covers it's ass.
     
    #40     Jul 12, 2008