Islam on campus

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by gwb-trading, Jan 14, 2015.

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    #51     Jan 14, 2015
  2. TGregg

    TGregg


    Unacceptable to whom? As far as the libtards are concerned, anything that wipes out white, straight men is good, no matter how many homos are stoned to death nor women enslaved. For them, this has never been about the issue du jour, but about destroying civilization itself. Is there any barbarian anywhere that the left has not aligned with? It is interesting to see so many confused when the left aligns themselves with the haters of homosexuality and women. Understand that these issues do not really matter to them, and this is readily apparent. Some Christians do not like gay marriage. For that, they must go to jail. Meanwhile Islam stones gay people. For that they must be allowed to spread their religion everywhere. It's not about gays. It is about the fact that Christians are civilized and the left is the enemy of civilization.
     
    #52     Jan 14, 2015
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  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Why don't we go back to our Christian roots in the U.S. - you know the good old days when the church killed witches in Salem and the Massachusetts colony whipped & tortured heretics like Quakers through the towns before dumping them over the border into Rhode Island. Or maybe we can re-live the good old days in Virginia when they burned Catholics from Maryland at the stake.

    Keep in mind that these are the roots of religion in the United States. Fortunately our country had some very enlightened founders who saw the problems with this and established a clear separation of church & state so this type of fanatical oppression would not continue.
     
    #53     Jan 14, 2015
  4. In other words, we moved out of the 17th century...i.e. progress.

    So why do you continue to make comparisons to the medieval practices of Christianity and current day Islam?

    Do you always talk in circles?
     
    #54     Jan 14, 2015
  5. fhl

    fhl

    Atheist communist regimes killed over 100 million people in the last century alone. Maybe we shouldn't leave that out when we're talking about the history of Christian killing. Just for comparison.

    And it isn't difficult to notice that the more the left talks about enlightenment, the closer it comes to atheist communist ideology.
     
    #55     Jan 15, 2015
  6. No surprise. Communism is one of the "Leftisms".
     
    #56     Jan 15, 2015
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I was merely outlining the religious oppression that existed in the United States when it was formed that is very comparable to what we are seeing today.

    All the major religions have different denominations or sects. Some of these denominations are more extremist than others and have a policy to forcefully impose their values on everyone. The issue with Islam in the modern era is that there are many extremist sects stuck back in the 10th century, while with Christianity most sects are aligned with the modern era.

    However you don't have to look far beyond the U.S. South to see extremist Christians in action that want to impose their values on everyone. Let's take a look at the most obvious example - having a drink.

    I enjoy having a beer once in while. There have been many dry counties in North Carolina - this number has dwindled over the past 30 years. However it took a long uphill struggle against bible-belt religious conservatives to make this happen. Most of these counties were ran by religious conservatives who want to impose their values on everyone and totally ban drinking. Despite referendum votes in these counties where over 80% of the people voted (sometimes more than 3 elections were held) to allow alcohol, these religious county conservatives took it upon themselves to not follow the results of the local elections and still ban alcohol. The state and the courts had to step in to force these counties to follow the will of the large majority of the residents.

    Let me also mention that businesses do not locate in dry counties. If the hotels, restaurants, and bars cannot serve drinks then business executives want nothing to do with the county. This makes dry counties economic waste areas - which can be seen by looking at a map of North Carolina where the dry counties (or recently dry counties) are economic disaster areas with no new business development.

    Don't get me started with the religious nuts in our state who have tried to ban girls from sports, ban girls from public schools, demand girls dress in a particular manner when out in public, stop the teaching of evolution in schools, tell me I cannot hold my wife's hand in public, demand the elimination of all non-Christian artistic performances (ask Lewis Black about this) and a host of other measures they have attempted to introduce in government to impose their extreme values on everyone across the state.

    I don't see much difference between religious extremists from any of the major religions - all want to impose their values on you and desire you dead if you don't adhere to their teachings.

    Traditionally religion has been used by political leaders in history as a tool to control populations. Extreme brutal events in history often involve the intersection of religion with totalitarian leadership driven to conquer others. In some cases the religion is replaced by a political philosophy (e.g. Communism) that is even worse than extremist religion leading to the most excessive inhuman events in history (e.g. Stalin's population purges).
     
    #57     Jan 15, 2015
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  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    Good post, I had not heard of the negative economic impacts of dry counties before, makes sense.

    Ernest Becker asserted (in his outstanding book, The Denial of Death) that when people with differing "immortality projects" encounter one another, they instinctively (if not consciously) recognize that if there can be more than one immortality project then maybe theirs is untrue--certainly it's at least depreciated. And that's terrifying because it forces people to look again at Reality without their armor. So in their terror, they fight.
     
    #58     Jan 15, 2015
  9. So basically, your objection is to living in a democracy where religious people are allowed to participate. I could list a dozen idiotic things liberal democrats, or conservative republicans for that matter, have forced on me that I don't like.

    The obvious difference is muslims will kill you if you violate their rules.
     
    #59     Jan 15, 2015
  10. Ricter

    Ricter

    Some Muslims will kill you...
     
    #60     Jan 15, 2015