Islam doesn't belong in a civilized country

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by Ditch, Oct 16, 2016.

  1. All the religions are basically surrogate of what you already aware of, BUT it`s obscured by YOUR INTERESTS,at this particular time, so you, basically don`t bother about religon and stuff.BUT, when it comes to realization(it refers mostly to some tragic loss, or bad times in your life, or whatever trigger is), when yur interets are no longer important(the world has fallen lol....), the first thing you`ll turn to.. guess what, it would be one of the well known traditions that`re offered(and your very well ready for that).you catch that bait, and there you go - you`re stuck in, turn your your pants upside down with all your money, you start worshiping someone your yourself long are, etc...Your a puppet, an instrument in others hands.Now you`ll play by their rules, don`t you dare to open your damn mouth from that point on!Don`t fall into that crap, Jesus/Muhammad/Buddha/Krsna/whomever are not better in any way then you.
     
    #71     Apr 2, 2017
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  2. " Toilet is the proper place for all those nonsense 'scriptures'... "

    All holy books should be restricted to academic studies only. Preachers should be based on the papers by scholars. All religious preachers and laymen should be prohibited in directly reading or referring to any religious holy books. imo

    All papers must be group reviewed before publishing.

    The holy books are exactly equivalent to all kinds of books in various fields nowadays. Including psychology, science, engineering, medical, sociology, legal system, government, etc.etc. People therefore should read all kinds of books instead of limit themselves in just the holy books.

    This fact is stated in the holy books that when the apostles travelling, they carry some other books to read/study, rather than just the holy books. This principle is really really important. But many believers and preachers ash people to read the holy books only and nothing more than the holy books, in order to limit their mind and thinking.

    Worldwide governments should have new laws for controlling all kinds of holy books. When Christians set an example first, Muslims and other religious believers then would follow.

    Then our world would have less wars, less killings, less terrorists, less problems. Much much better quality believers in all religions.

    Perhaps that was the main reason why the Catholic Church originally allows only preachers to read the Bible that was printed in Latin - a language only the preachers would want to study for becoming a preacher and communicating in Latin within their circle. Because they understand what would be a potential problematic issue ahead if they did the otherwise.
     
    #72     Apr 2, 2017
  3. Do a google search on " church .com " to see nowadays churches are running like commercial business, engaged in compassion business. The same kind of business the holy Catholic Church did over 1,500 years ago to the people who can afford to pay for redemption.
     
    #73     Apr 2, 2017
  4. What the world needs is a new curriculum of Practical Philosophy, which is to be designed to replace all the religious holy books of various traditions.

    It seems there are not too many branches of practical philosophy around. Stoicism, a fairly scientific framework practically for daily living that can be easily understood by laymen, could be also covered among other candidates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism

    It says (roughly): God is the Universe, and the Universe is God. Everything is part of God, and all things are inter-related in the Universe. There is natural law including physics for people to search, which is a cosmic law applicable among all things! LOL

    Perhaps a compromise for a 'God' definition to be acceptable by all mainstream religions, hopefully! Moving to a more peaceful and harmony world!
     
    #74     Apr 2, 2017
  5. Maverick1

    Maverick1

    I answered your question, but you did not answer mine. Here it is again:

    If the Koran says to love our enemies (your claim), why then does it prescribe death or 100 lashes for the adulterer who is hardly an enemy?
     
    #75     Apr 2, 2017
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  6. Perhaps we could try to google search " bible contradictions ". I just did that.

    Most likely Koran is not better.
     
    #76     Apr 2, 2017

  7. How do you explain that the Bible had written about the microchip under people's skin ?
    and today, as microchipping is coming to store money, and health data, and ID : we understand what it means?


    The Bible : more likely some people do not want people to fully understand the message in it.
     
    #77     Apr 2, 2017
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  8. No, I don't know.

    ( Is a digital implant the “mark of the Beast” talked about in the book of Revelation? https://realtruth.org/articles/101105-001-prophecy.html )

    I don't even understand why people would spend so much time studying/ reading the book of Revelation. I know I myself don't have the talent doing something like that!

    Many of Jesus' teaching already too hard for me to understand. I just pick some of them, the funny ones, for digestion. Many times, it took me more than 10 years of analysis in order to guess what he possibly meant in his historical context/ situation, as far as I can.

    Do you know what is baptism in fire as mentioned by Jesus, and how/when people could do that after water baptism? is this a more practical question for believers?

    Why Jesus said again and again, Who is my mother? Is this question more relevant to our daily life?

    What exactly was Jesus drawing on the sand, and why? In your opinion?

    I would prefer to spend time in reading something like this as a reminder about Jesus. http://www.alternet.org/economy/ignore-homelessness-your-own-peril
     
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    #78     Apr 2, 2017
  9. I did not talk about the "mark of the beast" : just pointing out that the Bible that some people want to throw away, talked about things that today we are understanding is going to happen. The Bible is not a book with no value.

    The Richest people in the world - not just the one that are fed to the public like Buffet, etc- are most into "occultism" , learning about these things. So why should "the sheep" not know about it as well?

    Now, homelessness : find out more about why/how people become homeless. It is usually a "social program" at work in Western countries. Why aren't you explained how this "social program" works?
     
    #79     Apr 2, 2017
  10. I've just done a bit of editing last post.

    I wish I am able to understand your questions better.
     
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    #80     Apr 2, 2017