Is volume analysis useful in index futures?

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by Laissez Faire, Dec 22, 2017.

  1. That can be true for the index. But it would be a very rare exception for that to be true for index futures.
    Volume can't be used exclusively, as you said.

    You often use K.I.S.S. I think I once knew what that stood for. Would you please refresh my memory?
     
    #21     Dec 22, 2017
  2. maxinger

    maxinger

    Some of the traders use time based chart ie one candle is completely formed after say 5 mins.
    And they might include volume bar below the price chart.

    All my charts are volume based.
    eg for ES , one candle is completely formed after 2000 contracts.
    In that sense, volume analysis is included in my chart analysis.
     
    #22     Dec 22, 2017
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  3. Keep It Simple Stupid. It's my philosophy.. "If I can't explain the trade in 10 words or less, I've probably got it wrong." You know, Occam's razor kind of thing...
     
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    #23     Dec 22, 2017
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  4. Xela

    Xela


    Mine also - I don't have volume shown separately below the chart, as some people do: I simply define the formation of the chart's bars according to numbers of contracts transacted.



    Indeed - exactly so.

    I spent quite a lot of time looking at volume, and all the trading literature about volume, really from Wyckoff onward.

    Unlike the "trading literature" on other aspects that I've studied, I didn't enjoy it.

    My own feeling about volume, in general (though I can't substantiate this or offer realistic evidence for it, at all) is that for me, using constant-volume bars gives me probably about 75% of the available benefits of "using volume professionally" with about 1% of the extra work. Which suits me. :)
     
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    #24     Dec 22, 2017
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  5. maxinger

    maxinger

    I guess you are trying to say KISS
     
    #25     Dec 22, 2017
  6. Yes, and I think you will find a significant difference in how volume visibly varies among time based, constant range, constant tick etc. charts. What stands out on one may be flat on another.
     
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    #26     Dec 22, 2017
  7. No. KISS can be a noun or a verb... or the name of a rock band.

    K.I.S.S. is none of those things.

    I remember some sage guidance about trading... "Go over your work and simplify as much as you possibly can. Then, simplify again."
     
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    #27     Dec 22, 2017
  8. Right! Now I remember. Thanks.
     
    #28     Dec 22, 2017
  9. I think you did more than "mention" it... more like shouted it. But that's OK.

    :)
     
    #29     Dec 22, 2017
  10. Nah, didn't put it in italics.
    I grew up in the time and place where manipulation was the name of the game. If you couldn't read charts, and the volume therein, you were out of the game in no time! Volume was available in time based charts only. There were no constant volume, constant range or constant tick charts in those days.
     
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    #30     Dec 22, 2017