Is USO a good way to invest long term in OIL?

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by sjain100, Apr 16, 2020.

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    Maybe;
    but on stuff like that,LOL, better sell too soon than /late :caution::caution::D:D:D:D:D:D:D
     
    #11     Apr 16, 2020
  2. sjain100

    sjain100

    -- thanks!
     
    #12     Apr 16, 2020
  3. sjain100

    sjain100


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    I agree, if you plot both USO and /CL -- the difference is hardly negligible!
     
    #13     Apr 16, 2020
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    It sounds like you agree with his motly fo*l rebuke.Pardon my sarcasm/LOL
    Looks like USO tracked Tx tea badly in 2008/$120 , but my data wrongly showed $120. I see from USO annual report it went up to about $150, so OK.
    Looks like most traders will lose money trying to trade this long term; unless you trade it like ERX, use 5 hour charts...…………...…………………......………………. + sell/close it sooner rather than later.LOL
    Exspense/ETF exspense seen a bit high=$11, 000,ooo+ a bunch of other stuff ; but 00.84 % is about average for levereged stuff.
    Its chart looks like nat gas etfs x3; trade it seldom is the best way to profit from it;wisdom is profitable to direct
     
    #14     Apr 16, 2020
  5. sjain100

    sjain100

    Over approx 99 days, both (USO & /CL) declined by approx the same % as can be seen in the chart below? Seems very negligible.
    Are we talking longer time frames like years where there lies a huge difference?
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    #15     Apr 16, 2020
  6. I have a bear call spread on USO expires 15jan21, I'd like to ride it down and buy back the short side when it's out of the money. I would like to end up long USO by June.
    I am one of the fools that read the Seeking Alpha article on Contango.
    I must admit, in futures contracts I know just enough to be dangerous.
    Can you explain the divergence from 08-09?
    Does rolling front month contracts just effect long term investment over long periods of time?
    Does supply and demand of the shares of the ETF have any effect on price?


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    #16     Apr 16, 2020
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    #17     Apr 17, 2020
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    #18     Apr 17, 2020
  9. hafez50

    hafez50

    It looks like the May contract expires today or Monday. The June is trading at $25 or $7 above the about to expire May. Whats spot price? Why hasn't the June contract greatly narrowed the spread with the May contract. So that means Monday they'll be quoting the $25 June contract? I'm confused . People will say wow oil was just $18 and now its $25? Makes no sense why the may and June premium did narrow to maximum $1 before the May contract is gone.
     
    #19     Apr 17, 2020
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