Is Trading Just Guessing?

Not quite sure what you mean here.
I believe in the laws of physics and the scientific method, etc.
But trading gets into the area of statistics.
Aren't they different worlds?

 

The ring of truth on a based on Gann method

The Master Seal Unlocked “

The meaning of a Master Seal is to describe a treasure of life hidden in secret, and to unlock it means that knowledge has come to one. This is what some ancients call the Flower of Life and the knowledge of the Universe. “ 55 “


What I am about to show you here is a method inspired or rediscover from one of the market Masters W.D Gann. Now Gann never reveal this technique or trading tool, but he inspired me and lead me to it all else being God. Who knows the fact if Gann did or did not, but he certainly did not reveal his true techniques 100% in his courses. I don’t know if Gann went as far in my direction to which the method that I discovered. I doubt that he even did went as far as which I found, because I couldn’t find the details to which he might have.

It all started with one quote when W.D Gann says we must Divide things within a CIRCLE of 360 degrees with the digits 1-9. Now just this line here could mean a lot of things in how time and price could be divided and so forth its workings. Just from this one line, I have turned it into a complete knowledge of mathematics, and science that could prove out the harmonic analysis to tops and bottoms. This is not a trading system, but it could be used for trading and I have it align to the NYSE. I will say this twice that it should predict the 99.9% exact date to which tops and bottoms are to occur.

...the cycle theory, or harmonic analysis, is the only thing that we can rely upon to ascertain the future. W.D Gann.

What I discover are the true time and space concepts to geometry that I could not find in any other piece of literature. I look but have not found it yet to this day, so I started to expand research and knowledge into it. What I found amazed me in the fact that it follows every precise law in accordance to time and space. I said to myself that is because of time and space that it has to follow this way of the true geometry. The fact is that many people say they use geometry that involves time and space, but they really aren’t applying the true mathematics. Some people are really just applying time and price and stating price for space values. This is actually really a form of one of W.D Gann’s method in applying the center of gravity technique though.
The truth is that time actually has a true or real value of space that is the angle of space within 360⁰ degrees Circle (Arc Angle). The geometric wisdom is to cause the CIRCLE, SQUARE, and TRIANGLE to interact to each other. Some call it “CIRCLE SQUARED “or enclosing a SQUARE within a CIRCLE or a CIRCLE within a SQUARE. The only way it’s possible to use a CIRCLE, SQUARE, or TRIANGLE as geometric applications is to apply it to time and space. It needs to be known at a specific time and angle of space to be considering a true geometric point.
Gann, in a comment in a brief essay of his, echoes this view: "...anything that can be proved in any way or by any science is not correct unless it can be proved by numbers and by geometry."
As far as the concept of geometry goes it is a hidden secret, due to the order of Squares and Triangles not known by the standard geometrical forms. I call this the unnatural Squares and Triangles of which Gann may refer to that all tops and bottoms come off of. These unnatural Squares and Triangles work in tandem to the natural Squares and Triangles to prove a change of direction (Tops and Bottoms). These unnatural Squares and Triangles are proven by Time, Motion, and Space values all based by an algebraic equation. They have nothing to do with Gann emblem where, say the Square of 144 and the Inner Square is 72 for example. The meaning of this geometric application to markets is that it really works out Time, Motion, and Space. The above mentioning of the Gann emblem does not focus on that, but in the center of gravity is his description. Like I said I did not discover anything Mr. Gann found or possibly use, but I was inspired in that one verse and took it in whole different direction. I have to say that it was one of the most innovated things I have ever put together for trading.

Now that is why I say the exact tops and bottoms in the S&P 500, Dow 30, or NASDAQ can be predictable. When one knows the true time and space values it is truly scrutinized to nature as it is. Though there are other techniques that follow just trading days this method only applies to true time. There are 12 months in a year and 24 hours in a day that complete my swing phase of this trading method. When people utilize trading days concepts they’re working to harmonize time and price balance to the charts. They’re trying to achieve resonance, and may have to wait out time to determine if a change of trend has occurred (45 Degree Line). The system in which I put together is actually the order of nature, and this nature is exact because I know the clock work behind it.

There is two Master Numbers that expands this time matrix, and keeps it flowing in the same exact order. This very Hidden Order of the market is cause by these two Master Numbers, and W.D Gann only mention one of them in his Master Courses. By this I know that he had probably never had discovered the concept of which I am presenting. The expansion of the Matrix grid is produce by an Octave Generator. Of course this Master Number holds the Law of Octave together and is expanded by the 2nd Master Number. This is why W.D Gann’s last book written is called the Magic Word, and stated that it was an endless circle that has no beginning and no end.

To explain this in further detail first I will say it obeys a Law of Octaves and is structure to a time Matrix. All time Matrices within the Cosmic Energy Matrix follow a specific mathematical-geometrical program through which space- time and matter can be experienced by consciousness upon the time Matrix structure.

There is a very organized Hidden Order in the time Matrix Grid. The Law of Octaves is scrutinized to the time Matrix in which it is built upon. Each octave point could produce a top or bottom by another Octave Point. How it works is two Octave Points on the Matrix grid produces the unnatural Squares and Triangles. A third Octave Point in duration to the unnatural Squares and Triangles forms another set of unnatural Square and Triangle, which is either the top or bottom. At least one geometrical point will be the factor in tops/bottoms regardless whether it is an unnatural Square or Triangle. There here lies the Hidden Order to where energy points may be damping (Lost Motion) or if the resonant pump (Vibration Oscillations) is intact (Tops/Bottoms).

There is only one or two catches to this system that I could see, but the weak points are really meager. The first is it can project an exact 99.9% mark of a change of trend, BUT does not indicate if it’s a top or bottom. The second is, one has to know if they occur on an unnatural Square or Triangle or even both. The reason why I say these points are meager is because they’re not that big of a problem when actual trading.

This kind of trading method takes long years, months, days, and hours to prove, and I will say I have it figure out for the equities markets. To do this it requires at least one year of data in the same mathematical format that I had discovered. The second is to make sure certain octave points are proven for future reference data. Just the process of maintaining this data and updating it is time consuming. What had to be done here is seeing that the Octave Points are valid. To do this requires calculating out every point to see if it had produce a top or bottom by Square or Triangle as it had in the past. Now simply I am going to put this long hard work to good use, and let traders utilize it for their own benefit, and of course not without a price. A trader like me just wants traders to get a cream of a big move. The thought of one who keeps your loss limited to one point and shows you how to get 5 to 15 points profit.

The trading method in which I had revealed will first be utilized for the U.S Indexes and Global Indexes. It is a system that has the ability to predict the exact time or date of pretty much every top and bottom. I will say this twice that it should predict the 99.9% exact date to which tops and bottoms are to occur. The secret to which this method could do this will be remained a kept secret, but the trading tool can be available to traders . This is to be one of the most important trading tools to ever be developed by any trader. I will say that no one knows it but myself and I am the discoverer of this hidden secret. None of my computer programmers knows the secret, but traders can apply the trading tool to their trading methods. This will prove out any last thoughts on a trader’s mind weather what if a possible top or bottom is indicated. Yes, of all the possible unnatural Squares and Triangles the right one will be an exact date to a bottom or top. http://themastersealunlock.blogspot.com/ I can prove these trades if some of you will ask in this matter.

 

Whoa!
Give me some time to study all this!!!
:eek:

 

One is a guess.
One is an educated guess.
Can you guess which ones I am referring to?

 

Clearly, trading is not 100% guessing because, unlike the lottery, you have the potential to acquire and apply skills that will increase the probability of success. (unfortunately, you could take inappropriate action that will increase the probability of failure). However, the same could be said about soccer betting although this falls firmly into the gambling category in the minds of most people. At the other extreme, we can’t say that trading is 100% not guessings we don’t have complete control over the outcome of each and every trade.

In my mind trading involves some guessing but most of the time you have to base your decision on data and analysis .

PS Do you think that it is possible that you can have higher returns using blind guessing rather than Fundamental or Technical analysis??

 

Hello,

When we are trading, We want to collect data and we want to review it. Then we should guest future trading system. Doing guest is major think in trades.

Thanks.

 

I also studying these day about this.

 

Most people have about the same chance of winning at trading as they do at winning the lotto.
The reason why is very simple in that they do not know what they are doing and take heed of endless rubbish as if they were the only real truths.
In doing so they fail to see the real truth and thus end up playing the lotto instead of playing to win.

"Why have stock market prices risen (especially) in the last 4 months with all the doom and gloom of the worst financial crisis to hit since 1929. In light of what has transpired over the recent past stock prices should be much lower"

 

when is your next cycle date?

 

I have 11/24/2012 to the end of an uptrend, and the intermediate top was follow by a bottoming 11/19/2012. I also believe that RIMM is actually rallying well, because come 11/19/2012 that strength should continue to surge twice the prior strength.

Remember I use harmonic analysis not cycle theory which is why I have these dates pinned to the exact day.