Is trading Gambling or not .."What say You" Vote here.

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by ElectricSavant, Apr 10, 2005.

Is Trading Gambling or not

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  1. Gambling

    460 vote(s)
    35.0%
  2. Not Gambling

    854 vote(s)
    65.0%
  1. If you are trading to make money..and if you are trading with house money...then the question begs...isn't gambling requiring uncertain outcome with net consequences?

    if not...

    trading can be "not gambling"

    what say you?
     
    #621     Dec 9, 2006
  2. If you make money and reduce your size after you bank the initial...then is everything on red?

    The net result justifies the "not gambling" means...

    you can always stop....

    there needs to be a consequence in your dictionary definitions..

    Think outside of the box...not on a trade-by-trade basis.

    there is more than one edge by the way...

    it is possible to reach the "not Gambling" zone...believe me...i know what I am talking about...
     
    #622     Dec 9, 2006
  3. Joab

    Joab


    Sorry Michael but your not even in the same room, never mind the box :D
     
    #623     Dec 9, 2006
  4. lol...yes many have noticed that...hehe...

    I like to think that I am in a "can".. lol

    What kind of car do you drive?


     
    #624     Dec 9, 2006
  5. intersting the poll is moving ever so slightly to the gambling side...

    you can always change your vote folks ...
     
    #625     Dec 9, 2006
  6. socalpt

    socalpt

    This topic seems to popup from time to time; I think trading is gambling. My profits would have been much lower if I didn't place a lot of capitals in a couple trades. It is definitely gambling.
     
    #626     Dec 9, 2006
  7. I will tell you ...you can reach the trading is "not gambling"...peak of the mountain...

    There is also more than one way to reach the not gambling altitude, without the simple example of trading with house money. but unfortunatly I do not share it.

    I am 100% sure but I can't prove it. You would just need to believe...have faith....

    trading can be "not Gambling"

    you can define infinity...
     
    #627     Dec 9, 2006
  8. romik

    romik

    house money, are you referring to trading for Merrill? But in that case Merrill is gambling, no?
     
    #628     Dec 9, 2006
  9. The capability to move one's stop to break-even is nowhere near the peak -- maybe just a tram ride to the mountain base? :D
     
    #629     Dec 9, 2006
  10. here is an example of MANY....(We have not even discussed arbitrage)

    if you went long a currency at 10 bucks...

    and you went short at same time.....at 10 bucks...

    I do not believe the currency goes to zero unless you were in Argentina trades...(sky is falling mentality..so that some can deduce that trading cannot possibly be "not gambling")

    You are trading...maybe you are not trading wisely...but you are trading. ...

    You have also defined infinity.

    as your short can only make you 10 bucks without leverage...
    so this is step one...

    now...for trading to become gambling in this scenario, one would have to take on direction so that their can be a consequence or there is not any gamble...right?

    now I want you to imagine how you could manage this trade and put time on your side knowing that a short can only go to zero...

    no limits to your management...you are 100% correlated and you could use weightings, levels...whatever you want...but I want you to imagine how you could maintain your riskfree direction...

    and...

    I really want you to think about this...hehe

    Michael B.

    So now..the new questions will arise...does gambling not only require a consequence but also a benefit...with its unknown outcome? Because if no benefit is needed...then there is no gamble? Now does one gamble for the consequence or the benefit?..and to make the paradox if the outcome is unknown how do they choose?
     
    #630     Dec 9, 2006