Is trading Gambling or not .."What say You" Vote here.

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by ElectricSavant, Apr 10, 2005.

Is Trading Gambling or not

This poll will close on Jan 12, 2060 at 11:25 AM.
  1. Gambling

    460 vote(s)
    35.0%
  2. Not Gambling

    854 vote(s)
    65.0%
  1. Does Trading Longer Time Frames take a little of the "gambling" out of the "not gambling"?

    When foolishly gambling can you extend the time of the trick?

    Please vote...

    Michael B.
     
    #591     Dec 9, 2006
  2. If your focus and goal are to make money. Is the measure of success in "how" you make the money?

    Do traders consider their success attributable to luck or hard work? hard work at what?...chance taking?

    now....

    Do many gamble for the "fun" of it. is trading foolishness?

    Michael B.
     
    #592     Dec 9, 2006
  3. Assuming you agree that Trading is about making money...

    Then after ten years you make a million dollars off of 30k....

    But during this journey your equity curve went up and down like a roller coaster. were you gambling? did the ends justify the means?...

    put another way...

    Lets say in year two you had a bad year...but you had taken your 30k out of your grubstake from your first banner year. This is a ten year project mind you...now would you measure your success on a trade by trade basis at this point of year two...or would you have removed the gamble form your project and consider all of your trades "not gambling"?...

    Profit is only measured in how much you spend...
     
    #593     Dec 9, 2006
  4. romik

    romik

    ES, don't you think that this subject has been covered from most angles? Not to mention that the survey does not prove anything apart from individual point of view, which is just an opinion as you do not know who is participating.

    Group A - lose money
    Group B - breakeven
    Group C - make money, but do have various drawdown periods
    Group D - make money

    Again, what are the assumed stats concerning people that are not able to make money trading - 95%? To me that says that to these 95% trading is gambling, but for some reason this poll's results point to majority participants treating trading as not gambling. Therefore, my conclusion is that the majority of participants in this poll either belong to groups D and possibly C (but what are the odds of that being so, considering 95% losing in trading?) or the majority basically have not been honest. On another hand we can assume that the majority that've participated in this poll belong to the 5% of consistently profitable traders, but again what are the odds of that?

    I am sorry, but I believe the results of this poll to be 99% BS.
     
    #594     Dec 9, 2006
  5. did you vote?


     
    #595     Dec 9, 2006
  6. romik

    romik

    yes
     
    #596     Dec 9, 2006
  7. I will say this...

    If trading is about how much money you MAKE...

    Then trading can be "not gambling" for several fundemental & technical reasons. Here is just a sprinkling of them:

    [​IMG]Time

    [​IMG]Degree

    [​IMG]Edge

    [​IMG]Control

    Let me explain.

    There is no time limit in your trade.

    There are variables that can be applied to a developing outcome.

    You can be the Casino...and make trading "not gambling" with your edge.

    You can control the outcome when YOU wish.


    This has nothing to do with opinion. Trading can be "Not Gambling"

    What say you...???

    Michael B.

    One way to view your trading as "not Gambling" is to trade your edge, with time on your side, with the house's money.

    ElectricSavant™[​IMG]
     
    #597     Dec 9, 2006
  8. Trading has several "Casino-like" properties that you can evaluate with....

    There are trends...Trading and pricing is not Random.

    There are higher table limits.

    You will not be stopped from making money as quickly.

    Michael B.
     
    #598     Dec 9, 2006
  9. How else does one gamble in life...?

    When negotiating ..
    one can take a gamble and put an offer on the table...

    In sports one can take a gamble....
    One can go for that extra to take all or lose miserably...

    In gaming
    one can bet it all on red



    But in Trading one can speculate on the unknown with an edge and change the outcome as it is presented to him
     
    #599     Dec 9, 2006
  10. Trish

    Trish

    Yes, trading, (and all investments) is gambling with pre-determined calculable outcomes. Risk>Chance>Gamble>Potential.

    Less risk is someone who knows what they are doing-yet not virtually free from failure.
     
    #600     Dec 9, 2006