Is trading easy?

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by nooby_mcnoob, Jul 5, 2022.

Is trading easy?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. Fuck off cunt.

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  1. easymon1

    easymon1

    Dark pools are sometimes cast in an unfavorable light but they serve a purpose by allowing large trades to proceed without affecting the wider market. However, their lack of transparency makes them vulnerable to potential conflicts of interest by their owners and predatory trading practices by some high-frequency traders.1

    This appears to say that dark pools are vulnerable to potential conflicts of interest by their owners.

    How to get a piece of THAT action? lol

    What would be the dollar value of free access to all pending, real time, and historic dark pool trading data and a few dozen proven badass informatics practitioners?
    I'd bid a buck three eighty.

     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2022
    #461     Jul 16, 2022
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  2. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    I fail to see any point to recognizing so-called manipulation or rigged other than chest-beating.
     
    #462     Jul 17, 2022
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  3. tomi01

    tomi01

    Yeah, sometimes my chest-beating displays of machismo gets out of hand..
     
    #463     Jul 17, 2022
  4. When I see big buys/sells the only way I read it is: some dude is putting up big money, I should pay attention. What do they know...
     
    #464     Jul 17, 2022
  5. tomi01

    tomi01

    They know what will happen the next day when it is unloaded.. after heavy pre market volume they created that attracts enough interest to trap a lot of traders... because this was what happened with NIO and AMZN the next day. Coincidence? I don't think so :)
     
    #465     Jul 18, 2022
  6. What you think you're doing:

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    What you're actually doing:

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    #466     Jul 18, 2022
  7. tomi01

    tomi01

    Are you really this full of yourself? Or you just can't help allowing someone to have an opinion based on their experience without going OTT trying to prove them and others who were there saying the same thing wrong! What is your problem dude? Get a grip.
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2022
    #467     Jul 18, 2022
  8. The only thing you need to do in order to become a good trader is to simply use these big trades as data points.

    For example, every buyer needs a seller. So how do you know that the seller isn't the one with more knowledge? Because they hit the bid? But really smart people would be confident and know they can just wait on the ask.

    So rather than make assumptions about intentions of these guys, just use them as a data point as follows:

    Hmm, this is a level I am interested in, a big guy is coming in. Let's see how price behaves.

    Hmm, this is a surprise, a big guy is coming in and doing some shit. I should probably tighten my stops in case he knows something.

    A couple of weeks ago, I believe after FOMC, I saw some guy selling a lot of nasdaq contracts and I ran in front of his levels as an exit for my long. The next day, market dumped.

    Was he manipulating the market? Maybe, maybe not. It didn't matter.
     
    #468     Jul 18, 2022
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  9. tomi01

    tomi01

    Seems to me, since I went out of my way to show you the tape with the buyer on NIO back on Tuesday, you might put your brain to work, instead of your ego, and "back test" your hypothesis, like looking for "news" that would explain buying to this degree, instead of using the shares to drive the price the next day, (my hypothesis). Having found nothing significant, you might consider you could be wrong... but instead you just post your unresearched ideas and add insults.
     
    #469     Jul 18, 2022
  10. OK you're right, it's manipulation. Everything that occurs in the market that is abnormal is manipulation.
     
    #470     Jul 18, 2022