Is this "THE HOLY GRAIL"' for trading the E-MINI'S

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by Jeanmichel, May 30, 2002.

  1. sabena

    sabena

    The never-ending search for the Holy Grail

    with those system guys...hmmmm



    They are trying to measure a non-linear

    world ( the movements of the markets) with

    linear tools (technical indicators).


    You have to be much more sophisticated in

    your approach to be able to come in the

    neighbourhood of the Holy Grail.
     
    #11     May 30, 2002
  2. nqtrader

    nqtrader

    There is no such thing as the Holy Grail. Only the pursuit of finding it!

    The sooner you realize that the sooner you will grow as a trader. Not that you should stop searching either...

    From another "system" trader.
     
    #12     May 30, 2002
  3. sabena

    sabena

    All the information of the market is in the

    chart itself.

    From the moment you use a technical indicator

    as a decision tool, you base your decision

    on reduced information.

    Technical indicator's should be used a a

    distant guide, not more.

    And the most effective technical indicator

    is for me still a simple moving average.
     
    #13     May 30, 2002
  4. I agree Sabena... there is no holy grail. I do know there are systems that work well though, even if they aren't "holy grails". I think it was on the omega list that I saw one poster saying "it amazes me how good a system has to be for most traders to be willing to use it". I totally agree with that statement. So what that a system doesn't rack in 900% ROI in one year. Anything over 100% ROI is good in my book... especially if the equity curve is fairly stable and the drawdowns minimal, then you just leverage yourself more.
     
    #14     May 30, 2002
  5. agreed, I have yet to see a system based on a technical indicator that works well for any significant period of time. If it works in the short term it is purely chance, imo.
     
    #15     May 30, 2002
  6. lundy

    lundy

    ____________________________________
    All the information of the market is in the

    chart itself.

    From the moment you use a technical indicator

    as a decision tool, you base your decision

    on reduced information.

    Technical indicator's should be used a a

    distant guide, not more.

    And the most effective technical indicator

    is for me still a simple moving average.
    _____________________________________

    that is the best post I have yet seen on this entire msg board. I couldn't have said it better.

    I am a strong beleiver in chart patterns, price levels, and volume. I don't have a single indicator on my charts except for price and volume. All indicators are contained within the market.

    If you havent found the grail yet thats cause your looking in the wrong place.... look at the chart. :cool:
     
    #16     May 31, 2002
  7. When you have an income between $6.000
    and $7.000 every month is that not good ?????

    When you do better, please let me know !!!!

    Jeanmichel:p
     
    #17     May 31, 2002
  8. I do better than $6. or $7. a month. Sorrry I couldnt resist. Dont use commas in Europe?
     
    #18     May 31, 2002
  9. hsanson

    hsanson

    JeanMichel:

    Can you elaborate more on the settings of your Emini's Trading system ? Are those colored lines moving averages, if so what period are you using ?
    If you can get to explain me the setups for entry/exit in a more detailed and objective way, I can do a backtest using Tradestation and see if the system can withstand the test of various market humor phases.(Non trending, trending)

    hsanson
     
    #19     May 31, 2002
  10. xtrader

    xtrader

    cheap

    It will be worth millions later.
     
    #20     May 31, 2002