Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz)

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jficquette, Aug 2, 2009.

  1. I found this video on You Tube. Probably won't be there for long.


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    #91     Aug 3, 2009
  2. mxjones

    mxjones

    Uhm, not true.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

    Scroll down to the part about the 14th Amendment.
     
    #92     Aug 3, 2009
  3. mxjones

    mxjones

    For this thing to have the legs we need it to have so it lasts to the next election (and thus guarantees Obama another term), you guys need to get a new front-person. She is a loon, and a bad mouthpiece for your movement.

    I volunteer you. Go! Spread the word far and wide.
     
    #93     Aug 3, 2009
  4. jem

    jem

    you call that what?

    I call that illogical b.s.

    Did you see the trick?

    the whole argument talks about natural born citizen and then it quotes the 14th amendment which defines citizen and includes naturalized citizens.

    For that snopes argument to make sense they would have to be saying the 14th amendment now says that a naturalized citizen like arnold could be president.
     
    #94     Aug 3, 2009
  5. mxjones

    mxjones

    lol

    You guys are freaking great!!!

    I could do this all summer.
     
    #95     Aug 3, 2009
  6. jem

    jem

    your the guy putting up bullshit arguments.

    go ahead do it all summer.

    Why don't you first define natural born citizen.
     
    #96     Aug 3, 2009
  7. mxjones

    mxjones

    Actually, the goal is do it for the next three years. Again, you will ensure another term for Obama.
     
    #97     Aug 3, 2009
  8. ak15

    ak15

    Eminitrader007 and Bigdavediode touched on these issues briefly earlier. This blogger has nicely encapsulated and expounded on these points as well as some new ones. Sloppy work indeed by Orly Taitz and that's putting it mildly.


    By Doug Mataconis @ 4:53 pm on August 2, 2009.
    Orly Taitz, World Net Daily, and the loons over at Free Republic having all been going crazy over this document, which purports to be a record of the birth of Barack Obama at Coast General Hospital on August 4, 1961:



    Looks convincing, huh ? Well, not so much.

    First of all, there’s a question of why a birth registration record would be issued in 1964 for a child born three years earlier who was not even living in the country at the time. This is significant because any original birth record would be a British colonial record, not a Kenyan record. Kenya was still a British colony in 1961, and did not become independent until December 12, 1963.

    Strike One

    This leads to the second problem with the purported birth certificate. From December 12, 1963 until December 12, 1964, the official title of Kenya was the Dominion of Kenya. It wasn’t until a year later, on December 12, 1964 that the Republic of Kenya came into existence. And yet, the document above, issued on February 17, 1964 purports to have been issued on behalf of the Office of Principal Registrar, Coast Province, Republic of Kenya.

    Strike Two

    The document, supposedly “certified with an embossed seal” and “witness signatures” says America’s next commander in chief was born at Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa at 7:24pm on August 4, 1961.

    Officials at the hospital confirm they’ve been besieged with requests for information on Obama’s birth but haven’t been able to find any record of it.

    “We do not have computerized records going back to the 1960’s and can only sort through our archives by hand,” Dr. Christopher Mwanga, an administrator at the Mombasa hospital tells GLOBE. “We have searched for all the names of babies born on Aug. 4, 1961, and have not found the name of Barack Hussein Obama. That is all I can tell you.”

    The hospital has no records, and yet there’s this document, purportedly created three years after Obama’s birth, by officials of a country that wouldn’t exist for another ten months, that has miraculously appeared.

    Strike Three.

    A point about the document above that I neglected to mention before. It’s worth noting that what we’ve been presented with is a photograph of a document. It’s not a PDF or other similar image that would be generated had the document been scanned with an optical scanner. The only reason I can think that someone would do that would be to hide as many of the obvious forgery flaws as they could.

    There are various internal inconsistencies that have been pointed out that suggest that the Kenyan certificate is more a hoax than a forgery (e.g. the certificate number 47,044 – Obama was 47 years old when he became the 44th president of the US and that the name of the Registrar, E. F. Lavender, is also a brand of handwash).

    If there was a Strike Four, that’d be it.
     
    #98     Aug 3, 2009
  9. You are forgetting the birther's code:

    Never let material facts get in the way of a grand conspiracy theory...


     
    #99     Aug 3, 2009
  10. jem

    jem

    I got news for you. I suspect quite a few state will require him to prove he is a natural born citizen to get on their ballot.

    Can you say - Hillary vs. Romney.
     
    #100     Aug 3, 2009