In the infamous thread "Trading with stop losses in a futures market is for losers" a couple of things were brought up that I thought were interesting. Now lets take the example of the average Joe with a 10k account trading 1 contract on the ES. He uses an ATM strategy of a 1 point loss. Correct me if I'm wrong, but how could SIM be different than LIVE if the broker can't even see your stop loss? I've seen price movements where it seems like MM were SL hunting, so I'm a bit skeptic of the subject. But I can see the position from both sides and juts trying to settle it once and for all. Thoughts?