Is there any way to reverse engineer options data to find good stocks?

Discussion in 'Data Sets and Feeds' started by 1a2b3cppp, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. If you could tell, from the options market, that a stock is going to pop, then 2 things will happen.

    1) The market makers (the ones that does the bid/ask spread) would have their thousands of computers send out orders at 100 per millisecond, way before you had even notice it. about the options pricing moving.

    2) Even if you had notice, several other human traders (including me) would be way before you to arb, pressing the options price down, or pushing the stock price up, or vice versa.

    Look at this to learn more:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxw1EFcm3vw
     
    #11     Apr 13, 2011
  2. There is a book about trading on prices using options rather than the underlying itself, buts its an expert level book...

    It involves a fair bit of ongoing participation in the Market too. You can't just buy one or two options and expect the proper results.. its a dynamic process..

    Basically it involves taking the various strike prices for starters and knowing that real Market prices may diverge from the normal everyday black-scholes pricing theory. Prices can diverge from traders expectations, because of liquidity issues, or from the shock of unexpected events themselves. That being said, you get into a process where you participate in that scenario where prices diverge from the model.. This process is trying to effectively use options to trade / hedge the underlying in a speculative way based on contingency rather the solely black-scholes, though it does use black-scholes as a starting point..

    The book is called - "The Blank Swan: The End of Probability" by Elie Ayache

    http://www.amazon.com/Blank-Swan-End-Probability/dp/0470725222
     
    #12     Apr 13, 2011
  3. I am mad noobish :D

    Been trading stocks for years, futures for over a year, and been learning about options for like a week.
     
    #13     Apr 13, 2011
  4. and then begin trading them, and then "unlearn" most of what you learned from reading books about trading them.....:cool:
     
    #14     Apr 13, 2011
  5. 1) You could consider looking at the historical volatility of the underlying stock versus the implied volatility of the underlying's options. :cool:
    2) My only concern then is that may prompt you to ask a lot more questions. :(
     
    #15     Apr 13, 2011
  6. So you are still a noobish on Options derivatives afterall.

    I have been in school for the past 15 years, went through 3 different companies and I drove a Mercedes before. Get my point ?
     
    #16     Apr 13, 2011
  7. jkgraham

    jkgraham

    What's wrong with being a 'noob'?
     
    #17     Apr 13, 2011
  8. 1) Penn or Penn State?
    2) C-class or S-class? :confused:
     
    #18     Apr 13, 2011
  9. spindr0

    spindr0

    If you're dyslexic, tt's better to be a boob. You never get your nickname wrong.
     
    #19     Apr 13, 2011
  10. spindr0

    spindr0

    Nahhh, he's a graduate of The Pen

    < just Joshing you (g) >
     
    #20     Apr 13, 2011