Is there an order in the Universe?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by andrasnm, Oct 16, 2006.

Is there a Divine Order in the Universe?

  1. Yes - we can see its miracles every day

    15 vote(s)
    55.6%
  2. No - there is only randomness and chaos

    12 vote(s)
    44.4%
  1. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    I dont talk as though i had any....its all a matter of how you want to view it homey...I choose to view this beautiful world and unviverse as more than chance...but i respect your view and hey perhaps you are right and i am wrong...peace
     
    #81     Oct 23, 2006
  2. Just curious, why is it that you can't spell the Bible with capital letter, and God with a capital letter?

    Do you think you will get cooties if you do?

    ROTFLMAO...

     
    #82     Oct 23, 2006
  3. i dont cap much of anything. too hard for a 2 finger typer. when i went to school we had to take typing class to learn to use a typewriter. like all knowitall kids i thought why in hell would i ever need to use a typrwriter and blew that class off. now i type every day of my life. proves you just never know what the future holds.
     
    #83     Oct 23, 2006
  4. neophyte321

    neophyte321 Guest

    Pretty timely... The author was on the Colbert Report'.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cu...omer-reviews.sort_by=-SubmissionDate&n=283155

    Not very suprising these same people tossing the "delusional" label around are hell-bent on takening over every aspect of our lives, while the delusional insist on their freedoms. I'm not very sophisticated in these matters, I just spit on these types ... The arrogance.

    They won't be satisfied until GOD IS DEAD, and we worship at the feet of the high-priests of Science. Science has no answers to the ultimate questions, and never will. For all we know, we are little more the Sea-Monkeys floating around in a fishbowl on someones desk ...

    It's funny, as stupid as we all are, those who believe, (want to believe) there is someone/something more intelligent are the ones called delusion. Those who insist there is no "God" attempt to replace him/her/it with themselves and their meaningless theory of the "Big Bang".

    "Worship me, I killed your God!"

    "Only the delusional believe in God" ... blah, only the delusional insist on debunking something not disprovable.
     
    #84     Oct 23, 2006
  5. theists have been trying to stop scientific inquiry for centuries. it will never change. we face it right now with george bush trying to stop research into cloning and stem cells.
     
    #85     Oct 23, 2006
  6. vhehn


    Registered: Nov 1999
    Posts: 5345


    New Post 10-23-06 08:43 AM

    why does the theist argument always boil down to "i dont understand how xxx happened so it had to be God that did it"?


    Looks like you can use caps when you want to...

    Hey, I am not saying you need to change your typing, but I have seen a pattern among the militant Atheists of purposely spelling God, Jesus and Bible with lower case, as some sort of rebellious petulant and childish response to proper names...

     
    #86     Oct 23, 2006
  7. jem

    jem

    Since this material is obviously requires too much work for, I am going to make it obvious.

    This is a quote for the chair of the physics dept at stanford. The founder of string theory... one of the best minds on the planet for physics.


    The discovery in string theory of this large landscape of solutions, of different vacuums, which describe very different physical environments, tipped the scales for me. At first, string theorists thought there were about a million solutions. Thinking about Weinberg’s argument and about the non-zero cosmological constant, I used to go around asking my mathematician friends: are you sure it’s only a million? They all assured me it was the best bet.

    But a million is not enough for anthropic explanations - the chances of one of the universes being suitable for life are still too small. When Joe Polchinski and Raphael Bousso wrote their paper in 2000 that revealed there are more like 10500 vacuums in string theory, that to me was the tipping point. The three things seemed to be coming together. I felt I couldn’t ignore this possibility, so I wrote a paper saying so. The initial reaction was very hostile, but over the past couple of years people are taking it more seriously. They are worried that it might be true.
    ====
    Do you understand the quote.

    a million other universes would not be enough to reply to anthropic prinicple.

    Please this guy is the author of string theory. it is a given to him that the anthropic principles pointed aobut by other sceintists are real.

    Study it learn it you will be surprised.

    If you had this guys mind and did not believe in millions of other universes you would believe there was a design.

    The anthropic principle is real science that is driving the best minds in physics to speculation.
     
    #87     Oct 23, 2006
  8. maybe that is my prior 50 years of religious indoctrination subconsciously seeping through. lol
     
    #88     Oct 23, 2006
  9. neophyte321

    neophyte321 Guest


    Should cloning be allowed? Should we be allowed to harvest parts from new born babies? How about cross-breeding giraffes and humans?

    These are ethical questions not religious ones. But I can't argue with your original asseration. I'm not as much concerned with relgion as I am "god"...

    By the way, this is another misrepresentation and LIE about bush. They only wanted to deny federal funding on research, and use existing lines. The preference, for anyone with a conscious, is to find a better alternative to harvesting embryons for our consumption. If it held so, so, so much promise that John Edwards can declare that if Kerry wins, the cripled will walk again, there should be no-end in sight for funds.

    I suppose those who believe "god delusional" have already decided that there are no ethical concerns about HARVESTING EMBRYOS FOR CONSUMPTION. These same people want to replace any nothing of a "God" with themselves. "I GRANT LIFE!"

    but that is another argument altogether ,.,.,
     
    #89     Oct 23, 2006
  10. what if cloning research found us a way to regenerate organs and saved the thousands who die every year because there is a lack of transplant organs? what if stem cell research was able to heal people with spine injuries who otherwise never walk again?
    do we allow religious dogma to stop mans advances based on a book of fables?
     
    #90     Oct 23, 2006