Is there a solution for Economic Inequality?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by VanessaChu, May 5, 2007.

  1. There you go...when the level of intelligence and knowledge of the subject is as limited as yours, you'll never understand and I wouldn't expect anyone with your limited intellect to do so. And before you react to me not knowing you, your comments highlight just how dumb you are. :D
     
    #41     May 17, 2007
  2. "...shouldn’t brain surgeons get paid more than bartenders, If they didn’t who would want to be a brain surgeon?"

    The gap is closing. Student loans, malpractice insurance are becoming formidable expenses, to name just two.
     
    #42     May 17, 2007
  3. grazia_s

    grazia_s

    Life simply will never be fair....one way to start though is implementing a flat tax....at least that way everyone pays the same percentage of their income...that\'s fair. And the middle class would have more money left over to donate to charitable causes that really deserve it and help those that do need help. Not the ones that milk the system...
     
    #43     May 17, 2007
  4. Mvic

    Mvic

    Wait for robots to be invented that will do all the menial jobs, then wait for middle class to become poor(mopst are already there, the rest a pay check away so shouldn't take long), then let the poor starve/freeze/die of lack of medical care.
    Rich left to live in stepford wives like utopia.

    If you are middle class you can hedge your self by going all in with max leverage in IRBT.
     
    #44     May 17, 2007
  5. Aok

    Aok

    John 12:8 "For the poor will always be with you"

    Bernard Baruch, "Unless each man produces more than he receives, increases his output, there will be less for him than all the others. Whatever failures I have known, whatever errors I have committed, whatever follies I have witnessed in private and public life have been the consequence of action without thought. That is why if you took all the money in the world and divided it equally among its peoples, in less than 25 years the people who had wealth originally would have it again."

    Great Father/Daughter anecdote.
     
    #45     May 17, 2007
  6. Mvic

    Mvic

    Maybe we should try the BB reset every 25 years and see how that works out? Less bodies to bury, short the undertakers.
     
    #46     May 17, 2007
  7. I think the whole thing about "economic equality" is bunk in the USA

    I have seen a few articles where the poor are presented with work opportunities and decline. After all, with things like:

    heating oil subsidies

    electricity and utility aid programs

    farm surplus programs to the poor

    transportation programs

    clothing drives and similars.

    grants and college aid

    supplemental aid to children

    SBA & microloans

    welfare

    food stamps

    section 8 housing subsidies

    job training benefits

    Medicaid

    benefits available from charity organizations

    And I remember one welfare mother's comments when presented with a $17/hour job. "But I can make more by doing nothing!"

    Sorry, but I only have pity on those who can't work. i had a friend with severe bipolar (manic depressive). Even on lithium, it was difficult to control his mania periods. No one would employ him for long.

    For those who won't work; let them starve...
     
    #47     May 17, 2007
  8. Aok

    Aok

    Exactly rcanfiel.

    Please dont mistake my post for kill or be killed.

    Take Christopher Reeve. If he wasnt "Superman" and had resources he would not lived nearly as long. We are all just one accident away from needing help. What should we do throw him away in the garbage?

    Hardly.

    However what the bleeding hearts never want to do is decide. Would you rather lock up a murderer for life at 25-35k a year or execute him and send a kid who was qualifed academically from Harlem to Harvard but would have ZERO chance financially even with grants up the wazoo? If you want socialism make it constructive at least.

    The true believer says do both. Reread the father/daughter scenario. Only one reality can prevail.

    I say in the next 25 years the USA has some tough decisions to make. Simply not enough money to placate all agendas.

    And the rest of the world? They have a taste now. They are not afraid to work 7 days a week, 14 hrs a day, no bathroom breaks, no health care, no pension. Except for France.

    Some interesting times ahead.


     
    #48     May 17, 2007
  9. AHAHAHAHAHA,

    You do not know what you're talking about. Not a clue.

    Most wealth is inherited & compounded and passed through family relationships & networking. Whole richie rich communities are built around this. Are you at all familiar how and why the Ivy League system was founded?
    The privilieged have opportunities practically made especially for them, with many chances to screw up and learn. The non-privilieged have to fight to even get considered and often get completely ignored, even though they may be 10 times smarter. If you ever met or socialized with the young privilieged, you would know. Most of the opportunity is secured and locked away from 90-95% of the population.

    Sorry, but in the real world, there is no such thing as fair opportunity for all. It is not possible. There is more talent & hard work out there than there is a chance for wealth. That's real life. So things get shady & nepotism runs rampant. It's been like since the start of civilization. Good ole boy networks are formed because of this. People want to protect their success & edge, noone honestly wants fair competition. It's human nature, people protect their own and will screw the rest, it's only natural.

    It's not about economic equality, it's about just a decent living standard for most. Most people do not want to be billionaires consumed with an insatiable desire for money & power. They are better than that. People in general are fine with economic inequality as long as it's reasonable.

    Problem is that the ones on top have gone insane with greed. They can't stop. Hence, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and this country is going down the toilet. Corruption is rampant, because there is no point in hard work. That's for the suckers, it's all about being in on it.

    Capitalism is a pyramid scheme. The American Dream is just a selling point to sucker people into the rat race. A small fraction can make it but a big fraction cannot. Does not matter how hard everyone may work or how smart they are. Just not possible. All in the numbers.

    Bill Gates even stated that a key reason why he accomplished what he did is because he was lucky. He had to be at the right place at the right time and met the right people. Only after that did his hard work, brilliance and criminal business practices have a chance at astronomical success. .
     
    #49     May 17, 2007
  10. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge created "economic equality" in Cambodia. Sure, they exterminated millions of people to get it but, hey, who gives a shit, right? It was for the greater good and those rich people and city slickers didn't deserve their material wealth.

    The creepy thing about socialists is that they always consider themselves to be one of the elite that should be in charge of determining who is allowed to have what. It doesn't take long for that to ferment into something really horrifying.
     
    #50     May 17, 2007