Is the crypto winter over?

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by schizo, Jan 13, 2023.

  1. johnarb

    johnarb

    There's always time to get back on the btc train, and it trades 24/7. My amateur chart says $34.05 is a good level to go long

    Buy the rumor, buy the news on the bitcoin etf. We shall see if this is correct

    (real not derivatives) bitcoin market is not like TradFi markets and this is because the buyers and sellers are a mix of global amateurs and professionals that trade on 24/7

    Who are the buyers of this bitcoin uptrend recently, most likely anticipating the spot etf approval in the US?

    1. crypto bros holding cash/stablecoins
    2. no-coiners on the sidelines turned investors
    3. Institutional investors allocating to bitcoin
    4. ETF applicants seeding their etf's

    Are they going to dump after the etf news? I do not think so, they do not fit the profile of short term traders



     
    #1281     Oct 24, 2023
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  2. schizo

    schizo

    Come tomorrow, I think one of two things will like happen.
    1. FOMOs chasing after the bandwagon.
    2. Profit-taking by those who rode up the trend for the last few weeks.
    I'm leaning towards #2 because we've just witnessed the classical "blow-off top" (although it still remains to be seen), where the last two days were pretty insane. If price does pull back overnight, I would think people will want to lock in their profit.

    Right now, we're trading below the moving average and the previous intraday high at 34,206. It's also about to break below the red line, which shows weakening of demand.

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    #1282     Oct 24, 2023
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  3. johnarb

    johnarb

    Agree with you if no news of etf tomorrow, could trade below $32k but doubt it will go below $30k

    Too much excitement without official etf news and the longer no announcement the lower bitcoin trends down with good support at $30k

    But if spot etf news comes out tomorrow.... :D
     
    #1283     Oct 24, 2023
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  4. I am interested to see if crypto is front running a bank blowup here. Bank stocks are getting absolutely crushed. Everyone knows that banks are sitting on all this commercial real estate debt that is going to need a haircut.
    It just doesn't make any sense that things would move this much for an ETF that makes no sense as a product and if anything will be a good option for shorting crypto.
    There is no point in paying an expense ratio to hold crypto lol.
    It is also a good example of how full of shit crypto people in their childish economic beliefs and absolutely no one cares about anything other than the price going up.
    If crypto retards actually believed what they said they believe then everyone would be totally against an ETF.
     
    #1284     Oct 24, 2023
  5. themickey

    themickey

    Got none of them.
    Sorry I can't help ya t' trade yur way out of a wet brown paper bag. :)
     
    #1285     Oct 24, 2023
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  6. Babyboomers have been taught to pay high MERs for most of their lives. They would gladly pay even 2% just to have a 3rd party handle their keys for them.
     
    #1286     Oct 24, 2023
  7. schizo

    schizo

    I agree. I don't think we'll fall below $30k.


    Price seems pretty muted today, so I guess no news from official channels yet?
     
    #1287     Oct 24, 2023
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  8. schizo

    schizo

    It's pure speculation, just like the Internet craze that led to the Nasdaq bubble in the late 90s (if you're old enough to remember that). As such, I approach BTC as a speculator and I personally don't see much use for BTC other than as a vehicle for speculation (just like options or futures).

    But look at where the Nasdaq is trading today. Even if you entered exactly at the top of the Internet bubble and sat out the 73% crash, you would still have made 156% as of today.

    My point is, no matter what your opinion of the market is, in the end the market will always prevail.

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    #1288     Oct 24, 2023
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  9. schizo

    schizo

    Took a small short position near 33,800.
     
    #1289     Oct 24, 2023
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  10. johnarb

    johnarb

    No news, actually had a bad news yesterday it could have been ugly, the Blackrock DTCC ticker was gone

    It came back an hour or so ago on the DTCC website


     
    #1290     Oct 24, 2023
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