Is Scalping possible?

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by tommo, Oct 6, 2005.

  1. Oneinten

    Oneinten


    That's to your advantage, if you have the courage of your convictions.


    Most of the spoofers don't...by definition.


    If your trade position is good then the current Hr bar of trading will close with your position in profit and the following bar's open will confirm that.

    If this doesn't happen you generally have a scratch or a tiny( 5tic) loss.

    I've had profits of over 140 tic using this entry set up, most recently short Dec Bobl @114.99, 115.01.

    Shorts covered @113.87,113.85.


    That was last week.



    It was a good week



    I've had ALOT that are much WORSE... but I'm still here after 15 years so I'm happy.


    1in10
     
    #21     Oct 6, 2005
  2. :D

    I am just being sarcastic. I am sure everyone here realizes that nothing on this board can be taken all that seriously. I know what I'm doing and know what it does for me, so I don't take offense at all. I have a hard time staying away when generic statements are being made about anything. Trading is never that clear. It is a personal thing and perspective. I think I'm too stable to be offended easily.

    You are right. The DAX has been amazing these last few days. It seems to want to do its own thing and there is plenty of follow through.... a lot of clear moves.
     
    #22     Oct 6, 2005
  3. Are you using MP to determine those tails of a bell curve?
     
    #23     Oct 6, 2005
  4. Actually, I'm not advertising for anything. I don't have any service to offer other than whatever I have learned through experience. I state that I train my traders or mentor them often to provide some validity for my viewpoint. I train on a retail basis and I only hire from specific sources.

    Do you find that my comments are invalid? Do you feel that I'm marketing something? I hope not.
     
    #24     Oct 6, 2005
  5. I agree with you. There are a lot of spread traders in the main trading room where I have my office in Chicago. They have the book stacked up and down to reduce their legging-in cost for the treasury products. It seems like they spend more time canceling and adding orders than trading. When the CBOT switched to LIFFEConnect almost 2 yrs ago, there was a problem with the servers that caused many of these traders to get filled on what seemed like a surprise move while the system was down. A few of them lost over $50,000 that day and it took 1 whole day to figure out what their position really was.

    I don't know how one can go back to stacking the book again after an experience like that.
     
    #25     Oct 6, 2005
  6. Oneinten

    Oneinten


    Capflow software with the splitter set to a high time frame.

    Gives profiles approximating 1 month of trading and splits on range excession closing only basis.


    So yes MP but not how most of the world looks at it.


    1in10


    p.s I don't think I'd get very satisfactory results in today's markets if I just stared at a bog standard daily profile. The time frame is too crowded, almost as crowded as the tickitis mob staring at their screens all day everyday.:D
     
    #26     Oct 7, 2005
  7. Oneinten

    Oneinten

    Here's a screen shot just in case anyone's interested.



    As if......:eek:
     
    #27     Oct 7, 2005
  8. FredBloggs

    FredBloggs Guest

  9. Indeed, in both ES and ZN, I've had on occasion submitted a resting order quite far away from current price, over 1hr before price arrived there, and it would trade 100s of contracts before I got a fill.

    It seems that there are blackboxes which fill the entire book with orders.
     
    #29     Oct 7, 2005
  10. LMeyers

    LMeyers

    Yes, that has been my experience too - in ES. No matter how early I send in the order, the price pretty much has to trade through that level before I get filled.

    All the more reason that ES should go to a smaller tick size.
     
    #30     Oct 7, 2005