is romney the most dishonest politician ever?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. Mitt Romney tells 533 lies in 30 weeks, Steve Benen documents them

    I’ve written about or linked to a great deal here “chronicling Mitt’s mendacity” — to borrow Steven Benen’s phrase.

    Mitt Romney says many, many things that are not true. He says this despite being in possession of the correct facts of the matter.
    Which is to say that Mitt Romney lies. A lot. He lies more than any other national candidate for office in my lifetime. And I was born before the Nixon administration.

    This is documented. Proven. Validated, verified, demonstrated, catalogued and quantified. Mitt Romney lies.

    Here are 30 — 30! — of Benen’s weekly “chronicling” posts. These are all backed up and sourced. These are not assertions, interpretations or allegations. These are facts, actual instances.

    Over the past 30 weeks, Mitt Romney has told lie after lie after lie: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XV, XVI, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XX, XXI, XXII, XXIII, XXIV, XXV, XXVI, XXVII, XXVIII, XXIX, XXX.

    Click those links. Read the lists. List after list of lie after lie. Hundreds of them — 533, to be exact, although Benen does not make any claim to providing a comprehensive chronicle.

    This is unprecedented. “We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers,” Romney’s pollster, Neil Newhouse, said.

    This has produced what James Fallows calls the “post-truth” age — a relentlessly dishonest onslaught of brazen falsehoods with which the media and the political system are struggling to cope. What do you do when every article, every “fact-check,” every arbiter denounces a lie and corrects it, but then a politician just keeps repeating it?

    It’s remarkable to behold.

    One of the weirder aspects of this for me is watching this unfold in the politically conservative culture of my evangelical world. The most partisan evangelical conservatives are also those most likely to rant against “relativism” and to trumpet their status as defenders of “absolute truth.” Those same folks will dismiss this post — and all 30 of Benen’s posts above — as mere partisan attacks without ever bothering to examine the 533 factual instances of Mitt’s mendacity, chronicled.

    That’s the only cognitive defense they have, I guess. Jam fingers in ears and shout la-la-la-you’re-being-partisan!

    Because, you see, the fact that Mitt Romney said something he knew to be false is a partisan fact. And the fact that he has done this at least 533 times in the past 30 weeks is also partisan.

    I suppose the other approach for Romney defenders who cannot bear to face the fact of those 533 facts will be to angrily pore over all of Benen’s lists, reading each one with a lawyerly eye.

    Have at it. Please. Cherry-pick. Spin. Split hairs. Hand-wave away whichever lies you wish as mere misdemeanors and not full-fledged felonies against honesty.

    But how many of those charges do you think you can get dismissed? 10 percent? 20 percent? Maybe, if you’re that sort of person and you work really hard at it — if you’re willing to get even more pedantic and semantic and technical than even you are usually comfortable with — maybe you could half convince yourself that 50 percent of those lies somehow shouldn’t really count against Romney.

    That still leaves more than 260 lies. That still leaves Mitt Romney as a convicted liar, 260 times over. And at that point you’ll have to join your friends with their fingers in their ears.

    But you’ll still know.
  2. I dunno. Let's paraphrase Stalin. (I think it was him).

    One lie is a tragedy, 533 lies is a statistic. Capece? What's Obammers score?
  3. I like James Fallows' observation: "We live in the post-truth era."
  4. I like what I said,

    Everyone wants the truth but no one wants to be honest.
  5. pupu


    The fact the the guy is some alien born vile swamp creature is an isolated issue, however the big problem is that half the country believes him. Is alien mind control technology that advanced?
  6. Lucrum


    No, that would be Obama.
  7. stoic


    Free (non) Thinker has cut and pasted this link before and it's one of his lamest.

    Romney said this.....
    That's a lie.

    Romney said that....
    Oh, that's a lie.

    Nothing stated to attempt to say why it's a lie.

    I must come to the conclusion that Free (non) Thinker is one of the dumbest F#&ks out there.

    He would have been one of those people that would be writing the Coast Guard complaining about their inability to rescue those poor people on Gilligan's Island.
  8. Lucrum


    :D :D
  9. The left has just come up with a new tactic. Anything your opponent says that you disagree with is a lie. We can no longer have alternative ideas. Makes it really easy to say you've won an argument that way. Obama didn't lose the debate at all. Sweet! Spin, spin, spinning away.
  10. That's funny I would have presumed he was Gilligan.
    #10     Oct 9, 2012