Is owning a home mostly a bad thing?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by nitro, Aug 20, 2010.

Is owning a home a bad investment for most?

  1. Yes.

    40 vote(s)
    33.1%
  2. No.

    66 vote(s)
    54.5%
  3. I don't know.

    11 vote(s)
    9.1%
  4. I don't care.

    4 vote(s)
    3.3%
  1. Bolts

    Bolts

    #91     Aug 26, 2010
  2. Illum

    Illum

    Obviously the landlord is making money off you if you rent, or he wouldn't do it. He seems to have it figured out. Complaining about mowing the lawn or shoveling snow? Come on now
     
    #92     Aug 26, 2010
  3. volente_00

    volente_00


    What state are you in ?

    In Texas the going rental rate is ~1% of the home's value.


    I am not sure about 1 million dollar homes but 1% is pretty close ranging from $50,000 townhomes to $500,000 homes around the Houston area.
     
    #93     Aug 26, 2010
  4. Bolts

    Bolts

    Hmm another one. People just seem to have a chip on their shoulder about the landlord making a buck. :p
     
    #94     Aug 26, 2010
  5. You explained nothing and don't hear anything that goes against your naive views.
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2931820#post2931820

    Everyone has to live somewhere. Either you can do so and pay down your own mortgage or you can pay down your landlord's like the sucker you are. If it makes you feel better to pretend that has no economic consequences, keep dreaming.
     
    #95     Aug 26, 2010
  6. Bolts

    Bolts

    So paying the landlord makes you feel like a sucker? You see how that is psychological and emotional rather than rational?
     
    #96     Aug 26, 2010
  7. I don't pay the landlord, YOU do, sucker.
     
    #97     Aug 26, 2010
  8. volente_00

    volente_00

    The best thing about home ownership is it forces the owner to build/save equity that can be used later. If you take a 30 year loan on a $150,000 house and pay all 360 payments you will have paid around $289,000 for it and that does not even include insurance, property taxes, and any repairs over 30 years.




    Assume $3000 x 30 years for property tax $90,000


    $1000 x 30 for insurance $30,000


    1000 x 30 for maintenance/ repairs $30,000



    In 30 years you will have paid $439,000 total cost for that home.


    Assuming 3% appreciation and you might be able to get $285,000 back out of it.



    The same home would rent for roughly $1300 in my area.


    So after 30 year of renting with no increase would have cost you $468,000 to live there but at the end of 30 years you have zero equity instead of $285,000.
     
    #98     Aug 26, 2010
  9. Bob111

    Bob111

    that would be 12% return for a year if you paid cash for 50000 house and renting it for 6K a year? hard to believe..i'm in PA..here you can have about 7-8% before any maintenance expenses(and taxes,condo fees, whatever)..so after it would be probably around 5% a year...with possibility that the house will loose the value in the future..i would skip that kind of investment..
     
    #99     Aug 26, 2010
  10. volente_00

    volente_00


    Recheck your math.


    A $50,000 house here will went for about 1% of it's value so $425-500 per month.


    So figure $6,000 for rental income


    Now subtract $1000 that you paid in property tax.


    Now subtract another $800.00 that you paid for property insurance.


    Now subtract another $1000 that you paid for repairs/ maintenance.

    Now subtract the 1% fee that is charged to manage it.

    So your net return assuming full rental is $2700 on a $50,000 investment.


    Far from 12%
     
    #100     Aug 26, 2010