Is Obama trying to discredit capitalism

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by bond_trad3r, Mar 2, 2009.

  1. Rumor circulating that Obama is tiring to discredit Capitalism so he can push through his left agenda.
     
  2. Do you have a reference for that. Thanks
     
  3. I believe Obama is trying to enlighten the people of the dangers of letting the capitalists in the prison of greed run the prison...
     
  4. TGregg

    TGregg

    Pffft. He doesn't need to discredit capitalism to push through a socialist agenda. Just tell everybody they get <A href="http://wethepeople.org/wpblog/index.php/2009/02/28/childs-fable-free-ice-cream/">free ice cream</a>, and he's set.
     
  5. Discrediting the corrupt brand of capitalism born of Reagan and matured fully by Bush is a necessary part of the process to return to a spiritually based society...

    When this country embraced a marriage of materialistic greed and excess as somehow virtuous with the false Christianity under Reagan, the die was cast for the current situation, and the normal reactionary over reactions we are now seeing.

    You just don't get it, it isn't he socialist who caused this mess, it is isn't he socialist who is going to fix this mess, and it sure as hell ain't going to be the corrupt capitalists who got us into this mess in the first place.

    All of you who defended Reagan Voodoo economics, trickle down ponzi scheme, Iran Contra, Read my lips former head of the CIA, Bush Jr. and Cheney...this is on your heads.

    Clinton just gave a democrat spin to the same corruption that began 3 terms before he took office.



     
  6. It is amazing how you advocate individual liberty yet support candidates that advocate bigger government.

    What is your definition of a spiritually based society? One where government controls everything?

    Also what human instinct stronger then individual self interest will your spiritually based society attract?

    Freedom is the right to have as little government in your life as possible. The more government tells you what you can do with your own body the less freedom you have. The more money government takes from you the less freedom you have. The more government tells you what you can and can't do the less freedom you have.

    Does this make sense?

    Making sure everyone gets paid the same amount of money is not ideal. It is an insult to the potential of human beings.

    Without insulting the potential of your species what governmental structure exudes more individual liberty then a republic that woriships the concept of individual liberty?
     
  7. "I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system," Bush told CNN television, saying he had made the decision "to make sure the economy doesn't collapse."

    Bush's comments reflect an extraordinary departure from his longtime advocacy for an unfettered free market, as his administration has orchestrated unprecedented government intervention in the face of a dire financial crisis.

    "I am sorry we're having to do it," Bush said.
     
  8. I am not supporting bigger government, I support a government where people have an incentive to improve America.

    I don't see that the corrupt system of capitalism cared about improving America, and I don't see a corrupt socialist system improving America either.

    I envision a society that requires each person to take the blame for the ills of society, to stop blaming the government, to have public servants who are required to perform their duty or be fired, etc.

    Any system works when the individual components take personal responsibility and pride in their job and stay away from the corrupting influences that both unregulated capitalism and lazy do noting bureaucrats in a socialist system.

    It is not the system of capitalism or socialism or any other ism that needs to be addressed. The problem is in the hearts and minds of Americans who are themselves corrupt and have gone astray from personal responsibility, pride in their job, seeing themselves as Americans before party and dogma, etc.

    We need better Americans to have a better America, and that is an inside job.

    Individuality is an inside job, a spiritual job. The government doesn't make people corrupt, selfish, greedy, unconcerned for others in society.

    The utopia begins in the heart and mind first, and then any system works.

    A decision of what values we as a society want to embrace comes first. There was a time when greed was considered sinful in America, not virtuous.

    There was a time when lying and cheating were not seen as something to do simply because you got away with it.

    We are so far off track internally, that it really doesn't matter what form of government we have right now...the people who are in or out of government are fully to blame for our problems, and each member of society is either part of that problem, or they become part of the solution.






     
  9. Besides his aggressive defense spending he acted like a moderate democrat on social issues besides tax policy. He even supported global warming.

    Anyone who thinks Bush was a fiscal conservative must have been living in a cave of denial the last 8 years.
     
    #10     Mar 2, 2009