Is my career over?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by TruthSeeker247, May 6, 2006.

  1. great post thanks for the insight.
     
    #111     May 8, 2006
  2. Htrader

    Htrader Guest

    I take large losses all the time. The only difference is that I take even larger gains and I have 6 years of successful trading behind me with a huge account balance. I've never blown up an account and I was profitable from day one. I'm a realist. I'll keep doing this until I can't anymore. If and when that happens, I'll move on to something else.

    You don't have a strong affinity with money?? Then why bother trading with real money at all? Maybe you need to start caring more about money, that may be a reason why you blew up your first account so easily.
     
    #112     May 8, 2006
  3. So much good info here...if only all beginners read this first.
     
    #113     May 8, 2006
  4. So what you are saying is that with a $200,000 account, one can't expect to make more than $150 per day? You obviously do not know what you are talking about. the problem with money management firms is that when you trade a massive account of hundreds of millions or billions of dollars, it becomes more difficult to post large end of year gains because your trades will often have significant impacts on the markets you trade. With smaller accounts, I know it is possible to make 20, 30, and even 40%. I know people who have done it (and continue to do it). A very successful trader friend of mine suggested that new traders should put up $40,000 in starting capital. by your standards, such traders should not expect to make more than $31 per day. That's pretty funny.

    Thanks for the reply nonetheless

    If there's one thing I've found it is that you don't learn to trade from books and you don't learn to trade from papertrading. You learn to trade by trading.
     
    #114     May 8, 2006
  5. The point I was trying to make is that I can take losses without getting emotional. Losses can teach valuable lessons. I take large gains as well but I don't always cut my losses. If I could somehow find a way to continue to take large gains and at the same time keep my losses small I will be very successful. This, of course, is easier said than done.
     
    #115     May 8, 2006
  6. I'm telling you, trade 1 lot..... i dont' know why you are gambling, i'm telling you, you are going fail 6 times faster.
     
    #116     May 8, 2006
  7. I've traded the FITE and the NOB before. Problem is that I always wound up getting amazing prices in the spread because I would wait before I would put on the second leg of the spread. I decided "what is the point of trading the spread when I am really betting on market direction after all?"

    I have to learn how to stay in the game. You are right. I really don't want to be out anytime soon.

    Thanks
     
    #117     May 8, 2006
  8. Yeah, well in your case, you've taken enough of them, so start trading a low risk strategy with higher reward, and be right more than you are wrong.

    Also, don't tell us you will do it.... JUST DO IT already.
     
    #118     May 8, 2006
  9. I started this thread 2 days ago. lol

    I don't think you even need to be right more than you are wrong; so long as your losses are much smaller than your gains you can still be successful being wrong more than you are right. I really do believe that.

    Thanks
     
    #119     May 8, 2006
  10. Lets see here, basic math tells me that:

    200K account
    20% profit = 40K year
    30% profit = 60K year
    40% profit = 80Ka year

    Ummm, so how much do you have now???

    Again, I ask you, how do you expect to pull 20% a year starting out? You wont. Drop your ego at the door and open your ears because your own post makes it obvious you havent a clue what you are doing.

    You admit in your very first post that you started with 30K.
    If we assume you are some kind of trading prodigy and pull 40% a year, thats a pathetic $12,000 a year. If I made less than 100K a year living in california I would consider myself poor.

    You are undercapitalized using your own best estimates.

    However, if you started with 200K and made 20%, which would be very good for starting out, you would make 40K which you could get by on until you got better. if you lived in a cheap area.

    I think its painfully obvious that its clearly you that dont have a clue, and the only person here making any sense at all between you and me, is, well, quite frankly me.

    You are undercapitalized and clearly dont have an edge or any money management ability.
    No, the best way to learn to trade is not through trading. This is the equivalent of learning poker by using real big money against real pro poker players. You are a lamb leading yourself to your own slaughter.

    Why not stop trading until you first develop a system with a positive expectancy??? Then test it in real markets. To trade without this is simply idiotic.



     
    #120     May 8, 2006