OP Apologies for nysestocks and myself getting off track from your original question but he seems to want to traverse this seemingly endless, and useless path with me Rabbitone Thank You Sir for the very kind words nysestocks Let me see if I can summarize our last few posts and put an end to your amusing diatribe I said positive expectancy and money management might be what the OP was searching for. nysestocks â you ultimately agreed with me by agreeing with hadTough life, and adding âMM is of no use unless you can make moneyâ Which by the way is the OPâs original premise for starting this thread, - so we should be finished But yet you continue to harangue me â Why All I can figure is you either A.) Want to convince me of something â To which I would respond it ainât going to happen and you should already know that based on our previous encounter in another post B.) You want to discredit my opinions â To which I would respond everyone here is more than capable of making up their own minds about that which I post â and if they so choose can place me on ignore anytime they like To add You also stated any person with 1/2 a brain can make money trading Again who exactly are you trying to alienate A.) Me and all the other folks making money trading (evidently by your account with only 1/2 our brain) B.) The folks trying to become successful traders who, (again by you own admission), evidently canât attain the 1/2 a brain level? You also have a tendency to talk down to people â and in circles â as youâre doing it â Why NOTE: The âwhyâ is rhetorical as I do not want, nor care to know â really I donât so stow away your ego Sir â and may I suggest the same place I told you before â in the other post â that would do nicely Early on in my trading career I met people just like you â idiots who liked to make folks feel inferior, or would mislead and misdirect folks trying to learn â just so they could confuse / take advantage of / and/or profit from the them... I term those idiots charlatans You see once I was one of those newbieâs trying to learn, and being made to feel like I wasnât smart enough to understand â like it was all my fault I did not get it. When all I really needed was someone to explain it in plain / understandable terms â no hocus pocus required However while suffering through all the BS I made a promise to myself â a promise that if I ever got into a position where I could âPay it Forwardâ I would without hesitation or reservation, or expectation of anything in return Well here I am â and I am more than happy to go down any path you like⦠but be forewarned I might collect up you âholy than thou crapâ and shove it right back at you â in spades So as you and I go forward you may be well served to think of me as a Redneck with Attitude â Boggles the mind â huh To conclude my diminutive minded friend If it makes you feel better you may call me an idiot, dimwitted, 1/2 witted, 1/2 brained, â or any other term you like â Redneck⦠My teenage sons do it all the time â I chuckle at their antics, and I think I will somehow manage to survive your tripe Otherwise I would suggest you post your opinion regarding the OPâs topic and be done with all this nonsensical debating Aside (if someone can tell me how to attach a .gif document I plan to post a shot of my trading platform layout on a separate post) along with some âFood for Thoughtâ notes Iâm just not totally computer savvy enough regarding attaching documents â but hey what ya expect for a Redneck As always I hope I have not offended anyone â if so I sincerely apologize to you Take Care All Redneck
OP started this thread 10-04-01. For all we know, he blew-up and is now selling A-1 steak sauce in India.
That's entirely too funny (sometimes I still miss the trees for the forest) NTW31 You're right - No excuses - I've been acting like an adolescent at recess time - it stops now Take Care All Redneck
What on earth do you mean by "money management?" Do you mean appropriate position sizing? Or appropriate risk:reward ratio/stop size? Or taking regular withdrawals from your trading account? Or....?
i break it up into two money management and Trade management... i have them seperated i dunno i guess for organization purposes lol.. MM i consider stuff like position sizing... withdrawals/deposits account size... etc. Trade management i consider risk:reward crap tactics etc.
Money management is not new it has been around for generations of other businesses. A few years back traders borrowed the term âMoney Managementâ from business management along with many other concepts of the business plan (this can be verified by Googling the words âsmall business money managementâ and view the 36,000,000 listings). When I ran a small sideline computer business in the 1980âs (which later became a computer store) I had my first course in âMoney Management.â The money management concepts for trading are similar to what I learned in small business. Here are some of small business rules I copied from my original course in small business management: âBe aware of the movement of cash in and out of your business â called cash flow. Cash is money in the bank, not inventory, accounts receivable or property. It is what you need to pay salaries, suppliers, utilities, creditors, rent, and so on.â âWatch the cash flow carefully. Positive cash flow â more coming in than is going out â is a signifier of financial health. Negative cash flow â more going out than is coming in â is an indicator that your company may be in trouble. Being aware of the influx and outgo of money will help you know if too much of your companyâs assets are tied up in inventory, if you need to collect what is owed to you, or if there simply isnât enough cash coming into the business.â Now apply these same old business rules to trading. The first objective then is to have a continuous positive cash flow. During any physical period of your (trading) business you do not want one or more large business transactions to create a big negative cash flow (drawdown) that may threaten to shut down your businesses. The second objective is not to have too much of your companies assets tied up in inventory (position sizing). If you are forced to sell off this large inventory at a loss than there may not be enough cash coming in to the business longer term to keep the businesses going. What trading authors have tried to do is build small business money management principles in to their books that traderâs can use in their trading business. However traders often discover the glittering generalities of money management principles do not work for them in live trading situations. These traders have failed to recognize their trading business requires a unique plan. Money management is cash flow management that is part of every trading plan - even if it is blank. How well cash flow is quantified and monitored in the trading plan makes or breaks most traders. The best trading plans keep cash flow consistent with the minimum of negative disruptions (drawdowns and outlier losses). Traders seem to think they are alone in this world of business failure. I hear â90% of traders donât make it long termâ. Tell this to restaurant owners. They fail at the same rate for the same reason â money management. Well, traders fail quicker; thatâs baloney. I got stiffed by a restaurant owner who bought a computer off me in the 1980s. He had not even opened the doors and he was broke.