is market random?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by padutrader, Sep 27, 2019.

is market random

  1. yes

    9 vote(s)
    16.1%
  2. no

    17 vote(s)
    30.4%
  3. not all the time

    19 vote(s)
    33.9%
  4. does not matter

    11 vote(s)
    19.6%
  1. volpri

    volpri

    Definition of random
    (Entry 1 of 3)

    : a haphazard course
    at random
    : without definite aim, direction, rule, or method subjects chosen at random
     
    #21     Sep 28, 2019
  2. gaussian

    gaussian


    The binomial option pricing model called and it wanted me to tell you that I was citing it with a fair coin and by simply adjusting the coin to be unfair you arrive at one of the most popular option pricing models on the planet.

    Revisit your undergraduate probability courses. Unfair coin flips are a perfectly viable way to represent market behavior as evidenced by the binomial model for option pricing. It's common for people to think entirely in terms of fair coins - so I will give you that. Perhaps I was being too factitious.
     
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    #22     Sep 28, 2019
  3. Wheezooo

    Wheezooo

    Price has a reason. Price moves for a reason. Price is a language, the markets only voice. At times movement in the market is random. Other times it is not. This is obvious if you watch commodities, equities no.

    50/50 Coin flip. Absolutely not. Unfair coin flip - more or less yes.

    ...and anyone that quotes Taleb religiously, that thinks they accurately comprehend what he is saying, but never traded options... funny.
     
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    #23     Sep 28, 2019
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  4. SPX Blaster

    SPX Blaster Guest

    The stock market is a ponzi scheme.
     
    #24     Sep 28, 2019
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  5. SPX Blaster

    SPX Blaster Guest

    Follow my thread. My cycles are not perfectly accurate, and it only tells approximately the timing of swing highs/lows, not how far it will move. For example, my cycle analysis shows audcad price will rise from a low about October 13, to the high due about October 17. I don't know how much it will move. If markets are random, this would not be possible. Please remember, this is not the holy Grail, but I would rather use this than most any other form of analysis.
     
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    #25     Sep 28, 2019
  6. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    My point exactly. Things look random because we can not find reasons/patterns. Once you do, it is not that random anymore.
     
    #26     Sep 28, 2019
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  7. RickM

    RickM

    If you are looking to win trading patterns, you have only a small chance of being profitable.
    Price is structured when attacking Liquidity Pools, very precise. When it has consumed these large pools, it becomes random to encourage more traders to take positions.

    Understanding what price action really is offers the best chance to seeing the market.
     
    #27     Sep 28, 2019
  8. pstrusi

    pstrusi

    It does a matter as a money management rule to get the best protection, however it can't protect you much longer if you don't have a trading method that can give you a minimum success to stay in the long run, in regards to George Soros quote.

    In my opinion it's almost impossible to predict the future cause it will always depend on the all player's free will to act, BUT it's possible to read present signs to know what is actually the trend and stick to it until a new change.
     
    #28     Sep 28, 2019
  9. pstrusi

    pstrusi

    FED printing money as mad to prevent a major depression that was showing its teeth in 2009.
     
    #29     Sep 28, 2019
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    The market can be manipulated as seen by this admin
     
    #30     Sep 28, 2019
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