Is Kirk Kerkorian Crazy?

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by misterno, Jun 30, 2008.




  1. under estimated market weakness.

    usually he will always get out with a profit because of the "Kerkorian" premium.

    ie buy the stock, push the rumor, proof the rumor, hype the facts, sell into the news.

    That and maybe he's going senile. Can't control the greed.


    Also, we could be under estimating him.

    Under Obama, health care will be a federal liability.

    A good % of GM's weakness in price is discounting for it's huge retiree benefit payments, which includes good health benefits for its retirees.

    If GM doesn't pay those benefits, the stock goes up.

    GM is at an operational disadvantage, since all it's competitors are being effectively subsidized by their respective national govts. ( govt. health care )
     
    #21     Oct 21, 2008

  2. really :confused: :eek:

    omg...that's really terrible.

    that's why I try not to peek my nose too much in these things.

    I am just scared to loose to much, including my family
     
    #22     Oct 22, 2008
  3. Hasn't Obama as much as said he'll save American automakers and help them to build the cars that are the future?
     
    #23     Oct 22, 2008
  4. Mecro

    Mecro

    GM is still a piece of sh*t company that should have been bankrupt decades ago. You think their revenue has been falling because of healthcare costs or because their product sucks?

    I don't even see the sense in waiting for an another government handout, all car sales will decline, so why bother with the worst company. Kirk is letting his ego dictate the trade.

    Personally, I don't see why anyone would buy GM stock for an investment.
     
    #24     Oct 22, 2008
  5. Allen3

    Allen3

    I've been reading about that for years now. The same sob story about how health care is going to bury them. Except for the media (who wants the universal health care) the average person knows the reason GM is in the tank are the Shit boxes they try to guilt the American people into buying. They have had decades to improve their products and have only given us polished turds. They deserve to go out of business.

    So, just like all the other bailouts, we will nationalize a bunch of mentally deficient butt holes. Hurray for America.
     
    #25     Oct 22, 2008
  6. Mecro

    Mecro

    Ahhh, but you forget the kicker. Check how much money their executives & directors made over those decades. What a racket!
     
    #26     Oct 22, 2008
  7. eagle

    eagle

    Yes, yes…………………, No.

    How do you define crazy? If crazy is defined as someone who made a wrong bet and later admit it, then I guess we'll have lots of crazy guys.
     
    #27     Oct 22, 2008
  8. buylo

    buylo

    He has had a hard on for the auto companies for decades. Don't really know why, but it seems a bit obsessive.

    The old joke; How do you become a millioniare? Take a billion dollars and buy an airline stock. I believe this applies to American auto makers, too.
     
    #28     Oct 22, 2008
  9. dsq

    dsq

    even the guru's and big fish get suckered by their own bs.Falling in love with a stock and an idea.HAve you seen how the net worth has evaporated of some of these billionaires?adelson,kirkorian,icahn,pickens etc...i d love to see a list of the big losers...Adelson went from 30bil to 3bil as lvs lost 90% of its value...
     
    #29     Oct 22, 2008
  10. hughb

    hughb

    His hardon for car companies is because car companies are notorious for hoarding cash. He was buying up Chrysler back in the 90's because they had a huge amount of cash on the books and he wanted to get it paid out as a dividend. he was unsuccesful in his attempt to get the cash, but if I remember correctly he still made a profit on the stock.
     
    #30     Oct 22, 2008