Is John McCain running a Bob Dole-like Campaign?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by quietriotrader, Apr 8, 2008.

  1. If you accept public funding, there is a spending limit. He has raised so much money that he will never accept public funding. He will look slightly hypocritical, but McCain has flip-flopped a couple of times on accepting public money himself, so he's in no position to exploit it.
     
    #21     Apr 8, 2008
  2. Gord

    Gord

    OK - thanks for that. So it will probably be a saw off with the RNC's advantage over the DNC making up the difference. There is a theory that while the DNC is starved for cash because of the candidates vacuuming it all up and the inevitable disappointment of one side or the other, Republicans will increasingly rally to support the RNC's fund raising. Besides helping McCain this also helps the house and senate elections.
     
    #22     Apr 9, 2008
  3. McCain's done. The election is being lost right now and you all can spit and chew all you want and it is going to change the slaughter that's coming - particularly in Congress. What's going to happen is the vote is going to be a Vote Against Republicans dynamic. The reasons why this will happen are right there in front of you in the Fed minutes, the supermarket and gas pump. There isn't going to be a Second Half Reacceleration either - that's the silliest thing I've seen yet.

    You all know what they say about payback ... .

    April 9, 2008
    Economic Scene
    For Many, a Boom That Wasn’t
    By DAVID LEONHARDT
    How has the United States economy gotten to this point?

    It’s not just the apparent recession. Recessions happen. If you tried to build an economy immune to the human emotions that produce boom and bust, you would end up with something that looked like East Germany.

    The bigger problem is that the now-finished boom was, for most Americans, nothing of the sort. In 2000, at the end of the previous economic expansion, the median American family made about $61,000, according to the Census Bureau’s inflation-adjusted numbers. In 2007, in what looks to have been the final year of the most recent expansion, the median family, amazingly, seems to have made less — about $60,500.

    This has never happened before, at least not for as long as the government has been keeping records. In every other expansion since World War II, the buying power of most American families grew while the economy did. You can think of this as the most basic test of an economy’s health: does it produce ever-rising living standards for its citizens?

    In the second half of the 20th century, the United States passed the test in a way that arguably no other country ever has. It became, as the cliché goes, the richest country on earth. Now, though, most families aren’t getting any richer.

    “We have had expansions before where the bottom end didn’t do well,” said Lawrence F. Katz, a Harvard economist who studies the job market. “But we’ve never had an expansion in which the middle of income distribution had no wage growth.”

    More than anything else — more than even the war in Iraq — the stagnation of the great American middle-class machine explains the glum national mood today. As part of a poll that will be released Wednesday, the Pew Research Center asked people how they had done over the last five years. During that time, remember, the overall economy grew every year, often at a good pace.

    Yet most respondents said they had either been stuck in place or fallen backward. Pew says this is the most downbeat short-term assessment of personal progress in almost a half century of polling.

    The causes of the wage slowdown have been building for a long time. They have relatively little to do with President Bush or any other individual politician (though it is true that the Bush administration has shown scant interest in addressing the problem).

    The slowdown began in the 1970s, with an oil shock that raised the cost of everyday living. The technological revolution and the rise of global trade followed, reducing the bargaining power of a large section of the work force. In recent years, the cost of health care has aggravated the problem, by taking a huge bite out of most workers’ paychecks.

    Real median family income more than doubled from the late 1940s to the late ’70s. It has risen less than 25 percent in the three decades since. Statistics like these are now so familiar as to be almost numbing. But the larger point is still crucial: the modern American economy distributes the fruits of its growth to a relatively narrow slice of the population. We don’t need another decade of evidence to feel confident about that conclusion.

    Anxiety about the income slowdown has flared at various times over the past three decades. It seemed to crescendo in the first half of the 1990s, when voters first threw George H. W. Bush out of office, then, two years later, did the same to the Democratic leaders of Congress. Pat Buchanan went around preaching a kind of pitchfork populism during the 1996 New Hampshire Republican primary — and he won it.

    Then came a technology bubble that made everything seem better, for a time. Record-low oil prices in the 1990s helped, too. So did the recent housing bubble, allowing families to supplement their incomes by taking equity out of their homes.

    Now, though, we appear to be out of bubbles. It’s hard to see how the economy will get back on track without some fundamental changes. This, I think, can fairly be considered the No. 1 economic project awaiting the next president.

    Fortunately, there is an obvious model waiting to be dusted off. The income gains of the postwar period didn’t just happen. They were the product of a deliberate program to build up the middle class, through the Interstate highway system, the G. I. Bill and other measures.

    It’s easy enough to imagine a new version of that program, with job-creating investments in biomedical research, alternative energy, roads, railroads and education. On the campaign trail, Hillary Clinton, John McCain and Barack Obama all mention ideas like these.

    But there is still a lack of strategic seriousness to the discussion, as Bruce Katz of the Brookings Institution notes. After all, the United States spends a lot of money on education already but has still lost its standing as the country with the highest college graduation rate in the world. (South Korea and a couple of other countries have passed us, while Japan, Britain and Canada are close behind.)

    The same goes for public works. Spending on physical infrastructure is at a 20-year high as a share of gross domestic product, but too much of the money is spent on the inefficient pet programs championed by individual members of Congress. Pork barrel spending does not add up to a national economic strategy.

    Health care and taxes will have to be part of the discussion, too. Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel of the National Institutes of Health pointed out to me that a serious effort to curtail wasteful medical spending would directly help workers. It would spare them from paying the insurance premiums and taxes that now cover that care.

    The tax code, meanwhile, has become far more favorable to high-income workers at the same time that they — and they alone — have received large pretax raises. That doesn’t make much sense, does it?

    It’s a pretty big to-do list. But it’s a pretty big problem. Since the economy now seems to be in recession, and since recessions inevitably bring their own pay cuts, my guess is that the problem will look even bigger by the time the next president takes office.

    E-mail: leonhardt@nytimes.com
     
    #23     Apr 9, 2008
  4. Gord

    Gord

    Then how come it's not showing in the polls?
     
    #24     Apr 9, 2008
  5. Sentiment and economic newsflows are terrible - party in power can't get by that - no way.

    This is the poll I'm looking at:

    "Americans are more concerned with the economy than the Iraq War, according to a survey from CBS News and The New York Times, which found that economic turmoil is the dominating issue during this presidential race. The survey also reported that 81% of Americans think the United States is heading in the wrong direction, making it the lowest approval rating since the newspaper began tracking such results in the early 1990s.

    Sixty-nine percent of respondents felt the same thing last year and 35% in 2002. Those might not be just empty feelings. The Department of Labor just reported that 80,000 jobs were cut and the unemployment rate rose to 5.1% in March."

    Not only is individual sentiment terrible - huge industry sectors want Republicans gone.

    Here, I've got an honest, decent moderate Rep senator I really like. She's going to lose to a real shtbag Dem hack for a ton of reasons that are just beyond her control.
     
    #25     Apr 10, 2008
  6. Gord

    Gord

    Not sure why you think voters will automatically blame the Republicans. Bush's approval ratings are almost twice that of the Democratic congress, and the down turn in the economy matches up well with the Democrats re-aquiring congressional majorities. It will be quite easy for Republicans to make the connection that the Dem's promise to reverse Bush's tax cuts is the major political reason for the down turn and that what is actually needed is more tax cuts.
     
    #26     Apr 10, 2008
  7. newbunch

    newbunch

    After becoming President, Hoover increased taxes and restricted free trade (Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act and the 1932 Revenue Act). Democrats want to do the same. Pretty good talking points for McCain since the Dems like comparing Bush's economy to Hoover's even though there is no comparison.
     
    #27     Apr 10, 2008
  8. It will be something like what happened to the father. Greenspan has a chapter in his book about being blamed privately by Bush Sr for his loss. AG basically says blowme - we did all we could - cut rates 35 times - the US economy had simply stopped responding. Too, Bush Sr had a winning war and no real oil, gas and food price pressure like we have this time.

    To pull it out - there'd have to be dramatic moves - oil down 30, gas down 75 cents, troop pull out (what Nixon campaigned on), another war or attack on us, maybe price controls even.

    Stay focused on popular economics NOT politics.
     
    #28     Apr 10, 2008
  9. Gord

    Gord

    I've got news for you - most voters do not follow economics. And the ones that do will likely in larger numbers see my arguments (the Republican arguments) as correct. But most voters are swayed by good political argument, and that is what my aruments (the Republican arguments) are.

    It will be equally easy for Republicans to blame the Democrats for high oil prices and the inflation it influences simply by pointing out that it is the Democrats who prevent increasing domestic oil production.

    Your view that everything that is bad in America will be seen by the electorate as Republican's fault is simplistic and naive. Saying it is all Bush's fault is not an argument and will convince only the Kool Aid drinkers of the extreme left who are already partisan to the Democrats.
     
    #29     Apr 10, 2008
  10. TGregg

    TGregg

    Just looking at the huge political success that is our Economic Stimulus Package. Voters think those checks they get are free money. I first noticed this affliction during the S&L crisis. 100 billion dollars (back then) down the drain. Nobody cared. I couldn't believe it. Voters thought "Hey, it's not my money, it's the government's 100 billion."

    Or taxes. Voters are thrilled that they get a refund every year. More free money, woo hoo! I got an idea for them, they could get an even bigger rebate next year if they changed their W4 to withold more money. The IRS is very wise to make the standard withholding large enough that most taxpayers get money back. That makes them happy.

    Naw, politicians know full well the way to keep voters happy is too keep on shoveling out the moola to `em. Free Money, yeah baby! I wonder how many of these turkeys accidently strangle themselves to death in their bedsheets when they try to get out of bed in the morning? Bet it's a lot.
     
    #30     Apr 10, 2008