Is It Time For Patriots To Begin Stockpiling Weapons?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AAAintheBeltway, Apr 18, 2007.

  1. achilles28

    achilles28

    Guess what Guys?

    Life isn't perfect. It never will be.

    Pipe dreams of a placid utopian reality will never materialize - no matter how many guns are grabbed.

    The dilemma becomes the lesser of two evils:


    1) Allow armed citizens to deter criminals and tyrannical usurpations of our Constitutional Republic. The cost is slightly more gun-related deaths and the occasional whacko going postal.


    Or #2:

    Confiscate and ban all firearms so we live in a 'blissful gun-free' society.

    The cost? Unarmed citizens become helpless to criminal attackers (who are always armed).

    But wait! When another Gulf Of Tonken, North Woods, or 911 happens and the Nation goes under absolute Martial Law, guess what? We're never getting our freedoms back. And possibly our money and/or family.



    The Second Amendment is the last failsafe the Founders gave us against an autocratic takeover of the Country.

    I say to those that would dismiss their wisdom and piss on their sacrifice -- YOU DESERVE NEITHER LIBERTY OR SECURITY.
     
    #21     Apr 18, 2007
  2. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
     
    #22     Apr 18, 2007
  3. How about a nice samurai sword as backup? I've heard the sword scared the crap out of a burglar with a gun once in close quarters combat. :D
     
    #23     Apr 18, 2007
  4. rockerz71

    rockerz71 Guest


    For a semi-auto one, no. Some areas do restrict the magazine capacity though. For full-auto its more complicated and extremely expensive to do it legally.
     
    #24     Apr 18, 2007
  5. You mean the paperwork is expensive or the gun itself is hard to get?
     
    #25     Apr 18, 2007
  6. How come you didn't put "A well regulated Militia" in caps? As far as people who abridges your rights to carry guns, well there are lots of places you can't take a gun, churchs, schools, my house ( I have a gun here but I wouldn't let you bring yours in) all federal buildings, 99% of the jobs wont let you carry a gun. Looks like millions of people and places abridging your rights. Guess I'm a traitor to the constitution because you can't carry a gun in my house, too bad. I'm just kidding with you, pointing out all or nothing remarks usually don't make sense.
     
    #26     Apr 18, 2007
  7. This isn't life, so its not perfect.

    Your next sentence seems inspired.

    Hell was originally supposed to be a utopian alternate reality for the Son of God to live in. I just call it hell. It doesn't work, so why continue to put faith in a dream? Time to think about an exit strategy.

    Jesus
     
    #27     Apr 18, 2007
  8. Why aren't all people allowed to own a thermonuclear device.
    The citizenry must be allowed to protect itself from the bad people who will always have access to a thermonuclear device!
     
    #28     Apr 18, 2007
  9. I keep hearing that, for home defense, a shotgun is the way to go.

    Agree, disagree?
     
    #29     Apr 18, 2007
  10. Editorial: Yet another rampage has occurred at a school, this time leaving 33 people dead at Virginia Tech—the worst such incident ever at a U.S. college campus.
    The news media seem stunned and surprised, yet their coverage sounds so similar to the stories about Columbine eight years ago. They dwell on the personality of the young man the police say did the shooting, before killing himself. They talk about him being a “loner,” depressed, perhaps angry at women.

    But aren’t there lonely and depressed people all over the world? Many countries have high suicide rates. Why is it that here some become mass murderers?

    The U.S. is the world leader in seemingly random acts of violence by individuals. Why?

    President George W. Bush rushed to Virginia to speak at a large convocation the day after the killings and tried to set the tone for what could be said about them. “It’s impossible to make sense of such violence and suffering,” he said.

    Don’t ask why, don’t try to understand. It makes no sense. “Have faith” instead, was Bush’s message.

    But there ARE reasons these things happen here, and they are pretty clear to the rest of the world. It’s just in the United States that no one is supposed to talk about the reasons.

    What distinguishes this country from the rest of the world? It is neither the most affluent nor the poorest. It is neither the most secular nor the most religious. It is not the most culturally homogeneous nor is it the most diverse.

    But in one area, it stands virtually alone. It has the biggest arsenal of high-tech weaponry in the world, way surpassing every other country. It has military bases spread all over; most countries have no troops outside their borders.

    It is conducting two hot wars at the moment, in Iraq and Afghanistan, and has sent hundreds of thousands of troops abroad over the last few years. Every day, the public here is supposed to identify with soldiers who burst into homes in Baghdad, round up the people and take them away for “interrogation”—which everyone knows now can mean torture and indefinite detainment.

    It also sends heavily armed “special ops” on secret missions to countless other countries, like the ones who just facilitated the invasion and bombing of Somalia, or the ones who have been trying to stir up opposition in Iran. This is documented in the news media.

    The immense brutality of these colonial wars, as well as earlier ones, is praised from the White House on down as the best, the ONLY way to achieve what the political leaders and their influential, rich backers decide is necessary to protect their world empire. Do lots of people get killed? “Stuff happens,” said former war secretary Donald Rumsfeld. “Collateral damage,” says the Pentagon.

    At home, the U.S. has the highest rate of incarceration in the world. Over 2 million people are locked up in the prison system each year, most of them people of color. When commercial armed security guards are also taken into consideration, the U.S. has millions of employees who use guns and other coercive paraphernalia in their jobs.

    In the final analysis, the military and the police—the “armed bodies of men,” as Marxists used to define them before women were added to their ranks—exist to perpetuate and protect this present unjust system of capitalist inequality, where a few can claim personal ownership over a vast economy built by the sweat and blood of hundreds of millions of workers.

    And the more divided, the more polarized the society becomes, the higher the level of coercion and violence. Assault weapons are now everywhere in this society, as are Tasers, handcuffs, clubs and tear gas. They most often start out in the hands of the police, the military and other agents of the state, and can then turn up anywhere.

    Violence is a big money maker in the mass culture. Television, films, pulp novels, Internet sites, video games—all dwell on “sociopaths” while glorifying the state’s use of violence, often supplemented by a lone vigilante. By the time children reach their teens, they have already seen thousands of murders and killings on television. And these days even more suspense is added in countless programs that involve stalking and terror against women—and increasingly children.

    As the Duke rape case and so many “escort service” ads show, women of color are particularly subject to exploitation and have little recourse to any justice. And as the murders along the border show, immigrants of color are fair game for racist killers.

    The social soil of capitalism can alienate and enrage an unstable and miserable person who should be getting help but can’t find it. If, as reports are saying, the young man accused of these killings was on anti-depressant medication, it is all the more evidence that, at a time when hospitals are closing and health care is unavailable for tens of millions, treating mental health problems requires more from society than just prescribing dubious chemicals.

    Many liberal commentators are taking this occasion to renew the demand for tougher gun laws. Yes, assault weapons are horrible, but so are bunker buster bombs, helicopters that fire thousands of rounds a minute, and the ultimate—nuclear weapons. Disarming the people is not the answer, especially when the capitalist state is armed to the teeth and uses brutality and coercion daily.

    The best antidote to these tragedies is to build a movement for profound social change, for replacing capitalism with socialism, so that people’s energies can be directed at solving the great problems depressing so much of humanity today, whether they be wars or global climate change or the loneliness of the dog-eat-dog society.
     
    #30     Apr 18, 2007