is it right to look at it the losses like this

Discussion in 'Trading' started by met1989, Sep 21, 2018.

  1. met1989

    met1989

    hello

    i have attached my portfolio as for today 20/09/18 and my question is it correct to calculate the losses for the day of EXPIRY not as what the contracts are worth in this manner i have :
    1 ES @ 2942 hedged by a put 2940 = 2 points
    1 put 2895 and one selling at 2905 = 10 points
    1 put 2870 and selling at 2865 = 5 points

    total points 17 * 50 = 850

    and to add the cost of all the contracts?

    is it right?
     
  2. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    Just use market to market of all position. Your trading software should show that,
     
  3. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    No -- even accounting for entry' pricing, you'd be way screwed.

    For example, you bought the 2870 put (value at expiration = 0¢)
    and sold the 2865 put (value at expiration = 0¢)
    but your accounting has their spread value at $5. (or $2.50, or whatever...)
    BUT YOU NEVER SAW THAT $FIVE DOLLARS.
    so, it's not a loss to your account net liquidation (which is THE ONLY THING that matters...)

    (FWIW, on the other side of things, your sold spread (puts at 2905/2895) did not *earn* you $ten dollars, either, right?)

    You had some exposure, though:
    1 put (sold or bought? would have to be sold to be exposure for 2940 pts at 2940. (See why?)
    10 pts at 2905/2895
    0pts at 2870/2865.

    Busy busy busy! But, you'd best get this accounting down TODAY.
    Net liq. is all that matters.
    Actual risk will affect net liq.

    BE SAFE.