Is it realistic to average $1.33 a day trading YM on $300 ?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by nitro, May 14, 2007.

  1. I'll give you $300 intraday margin and make your trades commission free.

    The catch is when it comes time to cash out, I won't give it to you :D
     
    #11     May 14, 2007


  2. nitro, I would say go for it. Although when you first start out in futures be advised that if your account falls below that $300 you will possibly get a margin call.

    Just dont let anyone here say it cant be done and you will be fine !!
     
    #12     May 15, 2007
  3. Dow bottomed 10/31/02 @ 7591

    7591 x 2 = 15,182

    buy and hold = less commission

    The way we are going we should hit this number by July.:p
     
    #13     May 15, 2007
  4. nitro

    nitro

    YM goes to approximately 13600, then 13800, based on M7 contract. That is based on my more accurate opinion of ES, where I think 1528 and 1550 are imminent (based on M7 contract).

    1527 SPX is a massive resistance number, since it is the all time high. Based on M7 contract, that is about 1532.

    At 13800, the entire market becomes volatile, with the frequency of 100 YM point days back and forth greater than the statistical distributions for the last four years would suggest.

    It may then breakout and go to 14200 to 14400, but imo the odds of 15K YM (based on M7 contract) this year are 1 in a 1000 against.

    nitro
     
    #14     May 15, 2007
  5. nitro

    nitro

    You know, with all the gamblers on ET, I don't know why they don't do the following:

    Sell the Jun 1625 ES call for .12 or so. Do it on 100 contracts and at expiration in 31 some odd days, it is ~$1000 in your pocket if ES is < 1625, a near certainty.

    nitro
     
    #15     May 15, 2007
  6. es future options @ .12 times 100 contracts is 600 based on ib's 50 multiplier.
     
    #16     May 16, 2007
  7. asap

    asap

    $600 - comms = $400 :) and an unlimited loss potential.

    actualy there are many CTA's doing just this for a living. :eek:
     
    #17     May 16, 2007
  8. nitro

    nitro

    Right, I am so ingrained on SPX options instead of ES options, that I become careless with the math on the parameters.

    Then do 200 contracts.

    nitro
     
    #18     May 16, 2007
  9. i knew that you knew that.... that's why i made a quick point:)
     
    #19     May 16, 2007
  10. Not sure if that $600 is worth the risk of blowing out your entire account that you worked so hard for even if the chance of it happening is minute.
     
    #20     May 26, 2007