Is It a Reversal or a Pullback?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by schizo, Jan 20, 2016.

  1. schizo

    schizo

    #221     Jan 24, 2016
  2. schizo

    schizo

    Here's the same chart upside down. Think you have the foresight to nail the top?

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    #222     Jan 24, 2016
  3. romik

    romik

    Short term trend forecasting isn't necessarily the only way forward, one could research candle to candle at high volume times.
     
    #223     Jan 24, 2016
  4. I agree. But the bigger the timeframe the wider the range you need to take to have the same accuracy. Standard deviation will give much higher values resulting in a much wider channel, and returns will be much lower with higher drawdowns as the system will trade less trades with wider stops.
     
    #224     Jan 24, 2016
  5. Should we read the chart from left to right? Or from right to left?
     
    #225     Jan 24, 2016
  6. romik

    romik

    The problem is that when one is looking at a price chart, in many ways it's making decisions based on 50% of the story. You see it moving, according to your parameters the trend has finished and hence the new one has started. But those are your parameters, who is to say that order flow will be in agreement with your parameters. Look at recent Autodidact's call, his parameters put probability at 90%, a high rate by anyone's standards, but it was a losing call/trade. BTW I am not trying to rub it in, not at all. I am just saying that future will always remain an unknown factor and no matter what the historical statistics were they can very easily alter in the next few seconds/hours/days/weeks/months.
     
    #226     Jan 24, 2016
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  7. Autodidact

    Autodidact

    This is very true, I was surprised to get it wrong, especially so quickly, does not happen to me often, but it did, and it will happen again and again and again, the life of a trader. Best we can do is make it a manageable loss when wrong so we can live to trade another day, no matter the type of trading; position, swing or daytrade.

    It's very important to accept defeat CALMLY so you can move forward with a clear mind.
     
    #227     Jan 24, 2016
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  8. TKOSTA74

    TKOSTA74

    word of thought
    looking at this chart that everyone is comparing. i have noticed at 1400(2pm) that their is increased movement in the chart.is this an opening time for the market or prior a news event.the reason i ask is that i have noticed when i trade the australian futures markets their is a lot of times at 9.50am when the markets opens on low volume it gets pushed like this chart and then once the market officially opens at 10am it shoots up in the other direction.also prior a major news event.it is a way to trap traders.
     
    #228     Jan 24, 2016
  9. romik

    romik

    But that's analysing the past, let's get a thread going analysing trends as they develop, ET collective :)

    Have a traffic light system, green for uptrend, red for downtrend, amber sideways=no trend. All on intraday basis RTH.

    Only highest participation ratios will trigger an entry, have to debate stop placement (perhaps yesterday's Hi/Lo) and target will be end of trend based again on highest participation ratio.

    I think it's a bloody good idea ;)

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    #229     Jan 24, 2016
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  10. londonkid

    londonkid

    To make an assessment of whether a move is a pullback or reversal you should look to the higher time frames w.r.t. the time frame you are seeing the pullback/reversal on.

    Personally I find trying to pick highs and lows sub optimal. I wait for more confirmation and for early entrants to be stopped. You can also watch correlated markets to aid your decision.
     
    #230     Jan 24, 2016