is it a joke that I want to trade full time to make a living with only $30,000?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by stockcik, Jan 11, 2014.

  1. +1

    You're down a tick on entry...seconds later 2, 3, 4 and more..much fear.

    You're up 4 or 5 ticks...feeling great starting to tell yourself "what ifs"..what if this goes to...

    That's greed :D
     
    #11     Jan 11, 2014
  2. You only need to make more than 6% per month consistently on an idea that you THINK it works......
     
    #12     Jan 11, 2014
  3. clacy

    clacy

    Why not get a night job to bring in some extra $$, then only use 1/3rd of your money to trade, and aim for a smaller monthly target. If you can make $700/mo with $10k consistently, then you can scale up with your reserves.
     
    #13     Jan 11, 2014
  4. Don't worry about the money for now, just ask yourself this question : Do I have a profitable and fully backtested trading system that gives me an edge while still keeping the drawdown reasonable?

    If the answer is yes then trade your system and never deviate from its rules. Set your maximum risk (stop) at 2% of trading capital, or whatever optimal value your backtest reveals. Re-invest some of your profits each month or quarter.

    If you can do that consistently, trade after trade, day after day, week after week and month after month then you will soon achieve your goal of making 2K a month (or more).

    In fact, after a few years, you will easily exceed that amount.

    That's it, that's all there is to it: trading edge + discipline + money management = $$$

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    #14     Jan 11, 2014
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  5. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    What exactly do you meant by...

    I think it should works, but I am not sure if it really works. ???

    1) Did you backtest your method ?

    2) Did you simulate trade your method ?

    3) What was the correlation between your backtest results versus your simulator results ?

    4) If you did simulate trade your method, were you able to achieve $2000 monthly profits with $30,000 capital ?

    My suggestion is for you to answer the above question at least to yourself. If you have a NO to question 1, 2 or 4...you should be honest enough to say to yourself you're not ready to trade with real money unless you want to lose it.
     
    #15     Jan 11, 2014
  6. To the original question: Yes. If explanation is necessary, double yes.
     
    #16     Jan 11, 2014
  7. if you have a defined edge, and operate it while managing yourself properly, $30k is plenty for futures.

    if you don't have a defined edge and/or cannot manage yourself properly, $3 million is not enough.
     
    #17     Jan 11, 2014
  8. A defined edge is an extremely powerful money making machine.

    Which is why you don't teach it, share it or discuss it.
     
    #18     Jan 11, 2014
  9. It's enough capital for sure. All you need to find out is how many times in a row you can be wrong before all your money is gone. And then what are the chances that will happen. How many trades a day does your "idea" produce?

    I have an idea buy the CL every friday at 1 and hold till 3:30. Use a 35 tick stop. Can somebody back test for me for the last 2 years?
     
    #19     Jan 11, 2014
  10. Bob111

    Bob111

    I've done that trading stocks.
     
    #20     Jan 11, 2014