Is God mute?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Jul 2, 2015.

  1. stu

    stu

    Good analogy.
    Snow White, God (Superman and Spidey too!) .... all mute, until they start to say what their creators, and then their followers, want to hear.
     
    #491     Feb 2, 2016
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  2. nitro

    nitro

    Blankfein Says He’s Just Doing ‘God’s Work’

    "The chief executive of Goldman Sachs, which has attracted widespread media attention over the size of its staff bonuses, says he believes banks serve a social purpose and are “doing God’s work.”

    “We’re very important,” Lloyd C. Blankfein said in an interview with The Times of London. “We help companies to grow by helping them to raise capital. Companies that grow create wealth. This, in turn, allows people to have jobs that create more growth and more wealth. It’s a virtuous cycle.”

    The dominant Wall Street bank posted third-quarter earnings of $3 billion and plans to hand out more than $16 billion in year-end bonuses.

    “We have a social purpose,” he told the newspaper.

    Mr. Blankfein also defended the firm’s compensation, saying that the practices correlated with long-term performance..."

    http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/goldman-chief-says-he-is-just-doing-gods-work/?_r=0

    “Others made no money and still paid large bonuses. Some are not around anymore,” he said. “I wonder why?”

    He said that he understood, however, that people were angry with bankers’ actions: “I know I could slit my wrists and people would cheer.”

    But he is, he told The Times, just a banker “doing God’s work.”
     
    #492     Feb 2, 2016
  3. nitro

    nitro

  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    You seemed fairly coherent until you got to this. You lost me there.
     
    #494     Feb 2, 2016
  5. jem

    jem

    OK...

    lets try this.
    There is no evidence of snow white.
    There is no evidence that life evolved from random chance from non life.
    therefore arguing for random chance causing life to evolve (and not a creator) is like arguing for a mute snow white.

    and/or

    According to top cosmologists our universe appears very special in that its constants are very finely tuned for life. Making appear that there must have been a creator. The widely accepted counter to a Tuner... is the multiverse. A multiverse is the idea of almost infinite universes (at least 10 to the 600 or more of them) in which every thing can.

    So if you argue for a multiverse to counter a tuned universe, you are arguing for the existence of snow white being mute in some universe.
     
    #495     Feb 2, 2016
  6. stu

    stu

    Wherever one sees no evidence,or indulges in the irrational, can find the gap in which to create a Snow White, a Tuner or a Creator.
     
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    #496     Feb 3, 2016
  7. jem

    jem

    when we had this debate...
    you said there was plenty of science showing life evolved from non life.
    yet you did not produce any when I asked...

    then I explained why...
    We don't even had a plausible pathway yet.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/suzan-mazur/jack-szostak-life-in-the-lab_b_5540478.html


    ...

    Suzan Mazur
    : We may never know precisely the origin of life, but how much insight into the actual origin of life do you think a protocell like yours might give us, say, on a scale of 1 to 10?

    Jack Szostak: We've been working on one part of the problem. Other people are working on other parts of the pathway. I don't worry, at this point, whether we'll know exactly how it happened on the early Earth. What we're trying to do is to work out a plausible pathway where all of the steps seem chemically and physically reasonable, and maybe we'll end up with multiple pathways which are all possibilities.




    ---This quote is from probably the biggest scientist in the field...

    1. Jack William Szostak is a Canadian American biologist of Polish British descent, Nobel Prize laureate, Professor of Genetics at Harvard Medical School and Alexander Rich Distinguished Investigator at Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston.Wikipedia
     
    #497     Feb 3, 2016
  8. nitro

    nitro

    Perhaps the best book on Atheism. Some pastors have even come close to being convinced:

     
    #498     Feb 3, 2016
  9. stu

    stu

    "Wherever one sees no evidence [...] [one] can find the gap in which to create a Snow White, a Tuner or a Creator."
     
    #499     Feb 3, 2016
  10. jem

    jem

    once again stu trolls with no substance.

    but I will play your word game, Stu... perhaps just to let you win your first argument with me in what seems like a decade of your trolling. because its possible in the last 2 years... since has found some evidence. So do some work and lets us know...

    Here is your task... give us some scientific evidence that shows life evolved from non life by random chance...

    as opposed to panspermia
    or that there was a drive for life implanted into the the building blocks for life.

    please don't make cheesy pedantic arguments.. such as we are alive.
    That is not the level of evidence we are talking about.



     
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    #500     Feb 3, 2016