Is God mute?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Jul 2, 2015.

  1. c'mon, don't diss einstein:mad:
     
    #461     Dec 7, 2015
  2. nitro

    nitro

    Inverse gambler's fallacy

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_gambler's_fallacy
     
    #462     Jan 2, 2016
  3. stu

    stu

    Nothing wrong with fringe if it might lead somewhere but...
    Imperfection neither removes infinity, nor explains how a universe would come into existence.
    Why exactly would a universe from nothing need to be perfectly sprung ?
    What is a perfectly sprung universe anyway ?

    Why not a state of nothing that evokes quantum fluctuations leading to 'imperfect' universes, (or just one) - that will evolve according to the environment. That may not feel right to you but is scientifically supported and dispenses with any need for googelplexes.
     
    #463     Jan 2, 2016
  4. nitro

    nitro

    No wonder the world is still basically in the Dark Ages

     
    #464     Jan 18, 2016
  5. nitro

    nitro

    It is a tiny step from that to this:

     
    #465     Jan 18, 2016
  6. jem

    jem

    because a "state of nothing that evokes quantum fluctuations" leading to something is just another another way to describe a "miracle".

    then for the something to be a universe this finely tuned for life is a second "miracle".



    to quote einstein from the previous page...


    “Shortly after his 50th birthday, Einstein was interviewed by George Sylvester Viereck. Viereck asked Einstein if he was an atheist to which Einstein said "I'm not an atheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws."


     
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    #466     Jan 19, 2016
  7. stu

    stu

    a miracle by definition need only be an amazing natural event.
     
    #467     Jan 20, 2016
  8. nitro

    nitro

    In the hands of an angry God

    "Belief in divine punishment may be inherent and a useful evolutionary adaptation, helping humans overcome selfishness

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    God Is Watching You: How the Fear of God Makes Us Human.By Dominic Johnson.Oxford University Press; 286 pages; $27.95 and £18.99.

    MANY people think that religious belief is inherent to human psychology. This does not mean that specific beliefs are wired, but that the brain is predisposed to believe in supernatural agents. Some proponents of this idea argue that supernatural beliefs have hijacked innocent or otherwise useful features of the mind. But Dominic Johnson argues in “God Is Watching You”, belief in God—specifically, in supernatural forces that can punish—is a useful evolutionary adaptation..."

    http://www.economist.com/news/books...nt-and-useful-evolutionary-adaptation-helping
     
    #468     Jan 29, 2016
  9. Perhaps there could be some/many amazing natural events, such as creation and big band, that our current level of scientific knowledge cannot comprehend/understand yet! Or maybe never !
     
    #469     Jan 29, 2016
  10. Behold, the Big Band. Sorry, couldn't resist.
     
    #470     Jan 29, 2016