Is fully automated trading a fantasy? Your opinions here

Discussion in 'Automated Trading' started by ybfjax, Mar 13, 2007.

Is a 100% automated system possible for a $10k (futures/forex)? To live off of?

  1. Yes, you can print money in the markets (large, consistent short term gains).

    106 vote(s)
    37.9%
  2. Yes, but not to live off of (very slow gains long term).

    27 vote(s)
    9.6%
  3. It may be possible, but no one would sell it.

    73 vote(s)
    26.1%
  4. No. Strictly a trader fantasy.

    74 vote(s)
    26.4%
  1. Do you trade the e-minis?

    JJ
     
    #161     Mar 25, 2007
  2. There are alot of mathematical formulas/indicators that measure fear and complacency.

     
    #162     Mar 25, 2007
  3. Yes, I trade the ER mini almost daily. There is a 10 point range most days. Emotional control together with a sound method can work, the program shows this is true.
     
    #163     Mar 25, 2007
  4. OK, I honestly believe you do.

    It's just that I see a 10 point range 5 days out of 10, not almost daily. It used to have a 10+ point range daily, but now it appears to track very much in-synch with the other major indices (which, BTW, is the BIGGEST arguement for developing a fully automated trading system around).

    Good trading,

    Jimmy Jam
     
    #164     Mar 25, 2007
  5. This program trades one er from cash. I work to follow the system on futures. It makes about $400 /day.
     
    #165     Mar 25, 2007
  6. bmp files don't upload:) new jpg!
     
    #166     Mar 25, 2007
  7. corrected
     
    #167     Mar 25, 2007
  8. I see.

    It's an automated system, whose signals you are taking, but you are actually pulling the trigger in the ER2.

    As far as the money is concerned, "sometimes it makes a much greater amount than $400 per day, other times it makes substantially less, but it averages out to approx. $400 per day".

    Correct?

    JJ
     
    #168     Mar 25, 2007
  9. This is true. Averages $400. Substantially less is about $500. loss...about $100/trade. Not so easy unless fully automated, then it could be easy. Some people do it! That's the main point. Its good to have a target.
     
    #169     Mar 25, 2007
  10. Like Linda Raschke from Market Wizards stated on her web page...the market shoots all it bullets at once.. after a huge 15 point move, like on the 21st, expect alot of consolidation. On Fridays, not much news anyway.
     
    #170     Mar 25, 2007