is facebook founder a traitor?

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Free Thinker, May 11, 2012.

  1. zdreg

    zdreg

    you are joking.

    the US is mired in debt and led by a president who doesn't believe in free markets or capitalism,

    jim rogers has left
     
    #91     May 14, 2012
  2. if you don't leave soon you won't be allowed to take anything with you

    i think saverin is a genius for leaving
     
    #92     May 14, 2012
  3. zdreg

    zdreg

    "if you don't leave soon you won't be allowed to take anything with you."
    exactly.

    ET posters are clueless that in the future there will be a run on the $US and capital controls will be imposed.
     
    #93     May 14, 2012
  4. BOOM. Another fantastic point. End of story.
     
    #94     May 14, 2012
  5. If he'd never set foot in the US chances are he'd never have gone to Harvard, met Zuckerberg, and so on. We can both bring up hypotheticals til doomsday. In real life, he met Zuckerberg while a citizen, went to Harvard while a citizen, did all the stuff he did as a citizen, and as a result it was all a lot easier than it would have been had he been doing it all from a base in, say, Sao Paulo.
    Whatever. What I like is that everywhere else people know what an ass he's being, but around here, it's all black helicopter type paranoia and the eehvull gov't is taking all the money, all the time. I have yet to meet anyone in real life who thinks the world is coming to an end and the US and everyone in it is horribly doomed and needs to get out with all their assets. Most people are doing OK, and adapting to the realities of the post bubble economy without getting all loopy.
    I think y'all spend too much time in your basements. Get out some and breathe. You'll enjoy the change.
    Me, I'm sticking to the options forum from now on. At least people act like they're sane over there. That's all I need.
     
    #95     May 14, 2012
  6. Why are you ignoring the fact that he's already paid his taxes during the years he was doing those things?

    Seriously, does that count for nothing in your eyes? Because, to me, it seems like his invoice for the costs incurred during the time he lived here in the US can be marked "paid in full", but apparently the fact that he (apparently, anyway, only the IRS knows for sure) paid his taxes means nothing to you. It seems pretty simple to me. You live here and the government incurs costs to provide you with public services, you owe them compensation for those costs. You don't live here and don't plan to, that's the end of the financial relationship. That's how it works with companies and I'm not understanding how a country is supposed to be different. Why, because someone said it was different? So? Maybe in the olden days when people basically had no options to move away from their tribe or clan, but it's fucking 2012, not 10,000 B.C. Honestly, you sound like some kind of caveman brought out of suspended hibernation with your ideas about the relationship between the individual and the state.

    I'm trying to understand your special kind of "sanity" because to me it just sounds like you are rationalizing and now you are ready to walk away declaring yourself the only person who doesn't live in a basement or something.
     
    #96     May 14, 2012
  7. The principle remains the same regardless. He could have easily been a foreign student at Harvard and met Zuckerberg all the same. The point is, if he wouldn't have owed the U.S. anything further for use of our "system" if he had been a foreign exchange student, then neither does he owe anything further to the U.S. on future earnings as a non-U.S. citizen. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

    Ah, the ad hominem attack. The last refuge of the logically bankrupt.
     
    #97     May 14, 2012
  8. Always remember this quote:

    "It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument."
    --William J. McAdoo
     
    #98     May 14, 2012
  9. probably not. the tax system in the us is set up to subsidise startups. it is concievable that he could go from a student to a billion dollars in net worth and never pay any income tax.
     
    #99     May 14, 2012
  10. i hope you realize that makes 0 sense. not surprizing considering but just saying.
     
    #100     May 14, 2012