Is everyone in a fullblown panic because of coronavirus?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. wildchild

    wildchild

    Well the cure seems much worst than the disease
     
    #201     Mar 13, 2020
  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    The same reason you rarely see real farmers get sick... they don't live their lives inside homes insulated so tight the house can't breathe (check a graph of pediatric asthma cases starting from about 1990, its exponential)... they sleep in their clothes, they aren't brainwashed by P&G's marketing department, they don't give a f about walking from the barn into their house with their shoes on, and last but not least, they have lots of cats and dogs running around in and out of the place.

    I know a girl who has her Phd in biology that owns a large riding riding stable, complete with some ungodly menagerie of assorted beasts and a dozen cats and and dogs.... very wealthy and quite easy on the eyes I might add, her former husband is a neurosurgeon in NYC.... she swears up and down Americans are idiots regarding this stuff. As did her ex. She says the more dirt and dander kids are exposed to, the better off they are for the rest of their lives. She has some kind of specialty (her biology degrees) in something about this. Suburban white women in America are idiots, as I said above, victims of 40 years of brainwashing by Proctor and Gamble's (brilliant) marketing department that you need to buy their products.
     
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    #202     Mar 14, 2020
  3. The sobering reality of the situation in 15 minutes. It must run it's course.
     
    #203     Mar 14, 2020
  4. Yeh. I have no problem with what he is saying.

    He does however meander and get discombobulated in a few places. He advocates the let er rip approach and we will all get immunity but also uses MERS, SARS, H1N1 as examples, but those outbreaks were managed by containment and isolation, not by vaccine or herd immunity.

    We actually know very little about the ability of the virus to mutate and about immunity. He presupposes a high correlation with basic flu type behavior - which is my bias as well so I see how he gets there- but we dont really know yet. Just letting a virus rip in the population is a good way to build up herd immunity if the immunity lasts for a while but we dont know that yet. Letting diseases and viruses rip is also a beautiful way for viruses to become even more competitive and virulent. We dont know yet. In an ideal world the virus would weaken and also spread like hell so and also give substantial immunity to future variations of it but the Great Spirit and Mother Nature do things without our approval sometimes if often.

    Anyway, I am somewhat of a moderate on the issue. I buy into the idea that it is going worldwide and most people will be exposed, and I also buy into the idea that there are major, major advantages to pushing the curve out as long as you can. Even a few weeks would help. All of the seasonal flu background noise will diminish and lighten the burden on the health care system, and we are learning more about the beast and treatment on a daily basis. And possibly it cycles a bit like the flu- we dont know yet, but that cannot be discounted- so if that bought a few more months of less-than-full-bore outbreak, I would take that too.
     
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    #204     Mar 14, 2020
  5. wildchild

    wildchild

    How was H1N1 managed and contained? It killed between an estimated 151,700 to 575,400 people.
     
    #205     Mar 14, 2020
  6. RRY16

    RRY16

    Golf, now Equestrian, what’s next? Sailing or polo?
     
    #206     Mar 14, 2020
  7. I don't recall. Was there a vaccine or was everyone exposed and herd immunity built up. I dont think so but I dont recall.

    I believe it was just contained until it died off. The fact that it killed a lot of people does not mean that it was still not contained below the level of most of the population contracted as he talks about in regard to her immunity. But it makes my point either way, we want to be careful about saying we need to just something rip to general population and git er over with until you fully understand the nature of the beast you are dealing with.
     
    #207     Mar 14, 2020
  8. Black_Cat

    Black_Cat

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    #208     Mar 14, 2020
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  9. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Someone needs to call Cuomo immediately and tell him to stick to the Dem propaganda narrative.

    Gov. Cuomo said, "I want to thank the Vice President and especially the President who facilitated this and moved quickly."

     
    #209     Mar 14, 2020
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  10. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Naaa... not me. F'n things eat too much, require way too much daily attention, and the vet bills are off the charts. Then its costs several stacks to get rid of the f'r when it dies. Waste of money. Send em all to Alpo.
     
    #210     Mar 14, 2020