Is Donald Trump an American fascist?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Frederick Foresight, Nov 30, 2015.

  1. That is my understanding as well. The left has created this all purpose smear term they like to throw around to discredit people they regard as threatening.
     
    #21     Nov 30, 2015
  2. More nonsense. The atmosphere around Trump is nothing like the atmosphere in Germany.

    What we are seeing is a reaction against global elites who have been trying to undermine the sovereignty of various nations. The proper term is nationalism, or put another way, reassertion of national sovereignty. We see it with Putin, and we see it with Trump. It is the total antithesis of the Obama/Hillary/Bush approach, with its slavish obsequiance to international bodies and unelected international bureaucrats. Trump's simple call to defend our national borders touched a deep nerve with voters, much to the alarm of the elites.

    I fail to see how enforcing our existing immigration laws or refusing hundreds of thousands of muslim immigrants/refugees when they have ample alternatives closer to home in muslim countries represents a revival of Nazism.
     
    #22     Nov 30, 2015
  3. ipatent

    ipatent

    A pattern of public officials getting rich while in office or shortly thereafter is evidence of fascism (Hermann Goering became the wealthiest man in Germany).
     
    #23     Nov 30, 2015
  4. Now there's an association that should give you pause.
     
    #24     Nov 30, 2015
  5. has nothing to do with any policy, it's just the mindless fury around him. otherwise, I agree with you about facism. it's when "The government and business will be so tight you can't even slide a cigarette paper between them."
     
    #25     Nov 30, 2015
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    As long as we don't go down the path of blaming any one religion or nationality or race for the cause of our problems.
     
    #26     Nov 30, 2015
  7. you mean like white evangelicals from the middle of the country?
     
    #27     Nov 30, 2015
  8. I get your point, but I think there is a big difference between recognizing that certain groups bring lots of problems with them and scape-goating a minority for persecution. I see nothing wrong or immoral about saying we are not taking in muslims, or in favoring Christian refugees.

    Our refugee law lists as one of the basic criteria to qualify as a refugee "religious" persecution, ie what Christians in the middle east are experiencing. It escapes me why the people doing the persecuting, muslims, must be treated as well as the persecuted.
     
    #28     Nov 30, 2015
  9. Perhaps you should have stopped right here:
     
    #29     Nov 30, 2015
  10. There is a huge intellectual trap that the media and obama want us to fall into. That is treating islam as a religious belief, say on a par with being a Methodist. Islam is an all-encompassing system of repressive government that is justified by the writings of a guy 1400 years ago who claimed to be getting instruction from God. If Karl Marx had claimed to be getting divine revelations would we have just surrendered to communist aggression on the grounds that to oppose it would be an infringement of religious liberty?

    Obama probably would have taken that view.
     
    #30     Nov 30, 2015