Is democracy any good ??

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Humpy, Nov 7, 2009.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    I suggested a " Simplified flat / fair tax".

    (Four links)

    Which comes from knowing a lot more about paying taxes than buttheads like you.
     
    #11     Nov 10, 2009
  2. Humpy

    Humpy

    The system used by any country has imho a direct influence over that country’s performance and thus the prosperity and general happiness of its people. The Soviet system collapsed because of a flawed system. The people couldn’t be fooled any longer by State propaganda and the secret police were having trouble keeping “ the lid on “. Much the same is happening in Iran. Will the State triumph and become an oppressive dictatorship like North Korea or opt for a sort of localised democracy ? Only time will tell.

    The Christian western democracies sort of grew up gradually out of chaotic disorder and periodic bouts of warfare.

    Hopefully there are improvements that can be implemented that will prevent democracy’s gradual economic failure to systems recently introduced into the BRIC countries ( Brazil, Russia, India and China ).
     
    #12     Nov 11, 2009
  3. the fatal flaw is it allows demagogues like obama to take power
     
    #13     Nov 11, 2009
  4. mahadiga

    mahadiga

    • ]Socialism = Preventing Race to the Bottom
    • Capitalism = Promoting Race to the Top
    We need BOTH (implicitly or indirectly) to build and sustain a Great Nation.
     
    #14     Nov 17, 2009
  5. a student of history would come to the conclusion that our economy caught its fatal disease under bush and the republicans.
     
    #15     Nov 17, 2009
  6. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    I must not be as <s>biased</s> good a student of history as you then, cause I include the democraps in my conclusion.
     
    #16     Nov 17, 2009
  7. Democracy is great it's the people that's the problem :D
     
    #17     Nov 17, 2009
  8. i wonder. are you still a student? cutsy terms like "democraps" are something you hear from immature school kids. not mature adults.
     
    #18     Nov 17, 2009
  9. Humpy

    Humpy

    Is there really democracy in the USA ?

    Of course not its just a myth. Anyone not in the 2 party machines hasn't got a hope of becoming President. Even Ross Perot with his millions was a non starter.

    Party jobs are bought and paid for with cash, favours and promises. It's more of a plutocracy. The party that spends most and is the least awful in recent memory is elected.

    Policies I hear you say. Well yes but only up to a small part and only those passed by the party machine.

    Speeches I hear you say. Well yes but they are manufactured by well paid script writers.

    Delivery of speeches ? - now for that they can do some coaching and practice.

    So for an electable politician one needs:-
    1. A great actor to deliver speeches written by others.

    As soon as the press are allowed a Q and A session it becomes apparent just what the politician is made of. G. Bush didn't even know where Afghanistan was on the map etc. etc.
     
    #19     Nov 17, 2009
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    My bad, "right wingers" is so much more dignified.

    Maybe you could post a list of cutesy terms that are allowed here in P&R, just so the rest of us mere mortals can also act as if we're above the fray.

    While you're at it can we get a ruling from your most high on Klannish, republiklans, bushites, Rush Limbfat and the like?

    Terms used by fellow ET members that tend to share your bias and opinions, now that I think about it.
    What's up with that?
     
    #20     Nov 17, 2009